Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
D&D Trolls: Where do they come from?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Mark Plemmons" data-source="post: 1349573" data-attributes="member: 1287"><p>Well, it's not from real-Earth culture, but the trolls in the Kingdoms of Kalamar campaign setting are (eventually) descended from the ancient titans that refused to take sides in the titans war against the gods.</p><p></p><p>The following comes from the book "Dangerous Denizens: the Monsters of Tellene":</p><p></p><p>HISTORY OF THE TROLLS OF TELLENE </p><p>Long ago, the Gods of Tellene were formed by the Creator to bring Her creation to fruition. The Gods determined that as they themselves served the Creator, they too would have beings serve them. Thus, the Creator granted the Gods servants in the form of Spirits, beings formed from the essences of their various Planes, and thus tied to the Outer Planes rather than the Prime Material. This satisfied the Gods for an age or three, as they caused their servants to build their Planes into that which most pleased them, forming their own realities separate and distinct from that of the Prime. Then, as the amusements of their own private cosmos waned, the Gods sought to expand their influence onto the Prime Material Plane. Unfortunately, they discovered that their Spirit servants were less than satisfactory for this purpose. The Creator had built into them limitations, such that they might affect the Prime Material Plane only through the medium of a native of that Plane. Thus, the Gods sought to convert the various races of the Prime Plane to their causes. </p><p></p><p>The Creator had brought various races into being upon the Prime Material Plane that Her Plan for Creation might be realized. These races included the Animals, Dragons, Dwarves, Elves and various other primitive creatures. The Dragons were aloof, convinced of their own superiority as the chosen mortals of the Creator (for they were the most powerful beings on Tellene), and thus spurned many overtures of the Gods. The Dwarves and Elves did not entirely suffice for the purpose of the Gods, for those beings had their own ties to Earth and Forest. Thus, they turned to the Animals and various primitive creatures in their quest for servants. There, they discovered a race of primitive beings, not unlike modern Humans (perhaps the forerunners of that race), and saw in them a spark of intellect, the capacity for thought and a kernel of will. The Gods took up the finest of the specimens of these beings and infused them with a share of their Godly might. Though it was but an infinitesimal portion of their might, even so that portion forged each of these beings into an entity of formidable power and prowess. Thus were created the Titans. </p><p></p><p>The Titans were originally created of stuff both mortal and Divine, and thus were at home on both the Prime Material Plane and the Planes of their respective Gods. For an age the Titans were the dominant beings on Tellene, and their great wars, triumphs and tragedies have come down to the modern peoples as the kernel of the most ancient myth cycles (in which the early Dragons, Elves and Dwarves played no small part). But for all that they were a part Divine, the Titans were mortal, and had mortal failings. At the end of their age, a full third of the host of the Titans sought to usurp the power of the Gods (some say at the behest of the Confuser of Ways). </p><p></p><p>The War of the Titans and the Gods lasted for a thousand years. In the ends, the Titans were defeated, though at great cost to the Gods themselves.</p><p></p><p>(paraphrasing from here on, so I don't have to retype a couple pages)</p><p></p><p>The Gods meted out punishment or rewards to the various factions. The Rebels went to the great pit of Tartarus, the Neutral Titans were bereft of their Divine essence and cast off, and the Loyal Titans were granted eternal residence on the Outer Planes.</p><p></p><p>The Neutral Titans discovered kindred "spirits" in the genies of the Elemental Planes, and eventually became the progenitors of the various Fire, Frost and Storm Giants. Others sought power in the earth, and became the Elder Trolls (not nearly as ugly as their current descendents).</p><p></p><p>Both races clawed their way back to an orderly civilization, but then the Divine War of the Gods occurred. The gods sought every advantage they could get, and the Gods of Chaos and Evil saw potential in the Trolls.</p><p></p><p>He Whose Name is Not, the Dead God of Chaos and Evil, mated his demons with the Trolls, creating the Demonic Trolls. Also created were the High Trolls (Chaos, Mindreaver, Rot, Storm). The High Trolls mated with Humanoids and other Trollish races, and their descendents formed the core of the various clans of Lesser Trolls (standard, plus Arctic, Cave, Moss, Sand, Sea, Stench) still found throughout Tellene.</p><p></p><p>Hope that gave you some ideas!!! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mark Plemmons, post: 1349573, member: 1287"] Well, it's not from real-Earth culture, but the trolls in the Kingdoms of Kalamar campaign setting are (eventually) descended from the ancient titans that refused to take sides in the titans war against the gods. The following comes from the book "Dangerous Denizens: the Monsters of Tellene": HISTORY OF THE TROLLS OF TELLENE Long ago, the Gods of Tellene were formed by the Creator to bring Her creation to fruition. The Gods determined that as they themselves served the Creator, they too would have beings serve them. Thus, the Creator granted the Gods servants in the form of Spirits, beings formed from the essences of their various Planes, and thus tied to the Outer Planes rather than the Prime Material. This satisfied the Gods for an age or three, as they caused their servants to build their Planes into that which most pleased them, forming their own realities separate and distinct from that of the Prime. Then, as the amusements of their own private cosmos waned, the Gods sought to expand their influence onto the Prime Material Plane. Unfortunately, they discovered that their Spirit servants were less than satisfactory for this purpose. The Creator had built into them limitations, such that they might affect the Prime Material Plane only through the medium of a native of that Plane. Thus, the Gods sought to convert the various races of the Prime Plane to their causes. The Creator had brought various races into being upon the Prime Material Plane that Her Plan for Creation might be realized. These races included the Animals, Dragons, Dwarves, Elves and various other primitive creatures. The Dragons were aloof, convinced of their own superiority as the chosen mortals of the Creator (for they were the most powerful beings on Tellene), and thus spurned many overtures of the Gods. The Dwarves and Elves did not entirely suffice for the purpose of the Gods, for those beings had their own ties to Earth and Forest. Thus, they turned to the Animals and various primitive creatures in their quest for servants. There, they discovered a race of primitive beings, not unlike modern Humans (perhaps the forerunners of that race), and saw in them a spark of intellect, the capacity for thought and a kernel of will. The Gods took up the finest of the specimens of these beings and infused them with a share of their Godly might. Though it was but an infinitesimal portion of their might, even so that portion forged each of these beings into an entity of formidable power and prowess. Thus were created the Titans. The Titans were originally created of stuff both mortal and Divine, and thus were at home on both the Prime Material Plane and the Planes of their respective Gods. For an age the Titans were the dominant beings on Tellene, and their great wars, triumphs and tragedies have come down to the modern peoples as the kernel of the most ancient myth cycles (in which the early Dragons, Elves and Dwarves played no small part). But for all that they were a part Divine, the Titans were mortal, and had mortal failings. At the end of their age, a full third of the host of the Titans sought to usurp the power of the Gods (some say at the behest of the Confuser of Ways). The War of the Titans and the Gods lasted for a thousand years. In the ends, the Titans were defeated, though at great cost to the Gods themselves. (paraphrasing from here on, so I don't have to retype a couple pages) The Gods meted out punishment or rewards to the various factions. The Rebels went to the great pit of Tartarus, the Neutral Titans were bereft of their Divine essence and cast off, and the Loyal Titans were granted eternal residence on the Outer Planes. The Neutral Titans discovered kindred "spirits" in the genies of the Elemental Planes, and eventually became the progenitors of the various Fire, Frost and Storm Giants. Others sought power in the earth, and became the Elder Trolls (not nearly as ugly as their current descendents). Both races clawed their way back to an orderly civilization, but then the Divine War of the Gods occurred. The gods sought every advantage they could get, and the Gods of Chaos and Evil saw potential in the Trolls. He Whose Name is Not, the Dead God of Chaos and Evil, mated his demons with the Trolls, creating the Demonic Trolls. Also created were the High Trolls (Chaos, Mindreaver, Rot, Storm). The High Trolls mated with Humanoids and other Trollish races, and their descendents formed the core of the various clans of Lesser Trolls (standard, plus Arctic, Cave, Moss, Sand, Sea, Stench) still found throughout Tellene. Hope that gave you some ideas!!! :) [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
D&D Trolls: Where do they come from?
Top