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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9187960" data-attributes="member: 93670">They are two different suvsets that may or may not overlap to varying degrees because catering to each is done in different areas of the UA's.  The munchkin focus was explained in <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/d-d-update-2024-rulebooks-survey-results.700891/post-9187582" target="_blank">312</a>.  I mentioned the subgroup of "players who think the gm has too much control"* specifically because of how bastions went from between session shopping through a loyal NPC while out adventuring to fabricating specific magic items on the players choice with no room for the GM to influence availability cost or whatever.  Having those same bastions as presented provide basically no consideration for what a gm might need from such a subsystem in addition to effectively functioning as a gold printing press as well adds quite a bit of weight to the problem.  That's hardly an unreasonable observation given that when raising concerns about such things I've even seen retorts about how it was ok because 20ish pages of DMG content wasn't intended to consider the gm beyond allowing them to say it will be used.*or whatever specific wording I used</blockquote>