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<blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 9190331" data-attributes="member: 7635"><p>I never saw that level of variance in the years I played with rolled stats. Even with different groups who had little in common. I saw a LOT of God stats though. Every fighter had an exceptional % strength (weird, right?). No caster had less than a 17 in their caster stats. Few people had scores below a 9, and if so it was someone dumping Charisma. But nobody ever had a penalty to a combat score. </p><p></p><p>See, we figured out that to beat the random deadliness of low level was to play "Baldur's Gate style": always get the best results you could on Char-Gen dice, no matter what. It was an open secret people flipped a 1 on a HD roll to a higher number. Everyone quietly made sure their wizard had enough Dex to get an AC bonus. Nobody called anyone out for cheating because to do so was to be a hypocrite. Like Payola or Congressional lobbying, nobody stopped it because everyone was doing it.</p><p></p><p>(And to be clear, the cheating was limited to chargen. Cheating in the actual game was still faux pas, but quietly permitted during level up). </p><p></p><p>The best moment for me was when, during 3.5, I decided to use point buy and fixed HP per level. Something miraculous happened: everyone's stats went down. People started having dump stats and penalties to things. </p><p></p><p>It is funny though when the idea of rolling stats gets voiced from time to time. Everyone who advocates trying it again immediately reminisces about that Uber God stat array they had and they never push to have a character with low stats (you know, the "highest score is a 13 and multiple single digit array"). I find the promise of 3d6 in order shuts them up. </p><p></p><p>But it's been a great thing for me and I'm fine with never going back to rolling stats again.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Remathilis, post: 9190331, member: 7635"] I never saw that level of variance in the years I played with rolled stats. Even with different groups who had little in common. I saw a LOT of God stats though. Every fighter had an exceptional % strength (weird, right?). No caster had less than a 17 in their caster stats. Few people had scores below a 9, and if so it was someone dumping Charisma. But nobody ever had a penalty to a combat score. See, we figured out that to beat the random deadliness of low level was to play "Baldur's Gate style": always get the best results you could on Char-Gen dice, no matter what. It was an open secret people flipped a 1 on a HD roll to a higher number. Everyone quietly made sure their wizard had enough Dex to get an AC bonus. Nobody called anyone out for cheating because to do so was to be a hypocrite. Like Payola or Congressional lobbying, nobody stopped it because everyone was doing it. (And to be clear, the cheating was limited to chargen. Cheating in the actual game was still faux pas, but quietly permitted during level up). The best moment for me was when, during 3.5, I decided to use point buy and fixed HP per level. Something miraculous happened: everyone's stats went down. People started having dump stats and penalties to things. It is funny though when the idea of rolling stats gets voiced from time to time. Everyone who advocates trying it again immediately reminisces about that Uber God stat array they had and they never push to have a character with low stats (you know, the "highest score is a 13 and multiple single digit array"). I find the promise of 3d6 in order shuts them up. But it's been a great thing for me and I'm fine with never going back to rolling stats again. [/QUOTE]
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