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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 9193513" data-attributes="member: 6704184">It would be silly to not give the subclass unarmed strike benefits. That’s it. That’s the whole equation. And again, Jackie Chan is a graceful master of his own body and the environment, who is using acrobatics nearly as much as objects to wreck faces. Like, he&nbsp; isn’t fighting like a D&amp;D strength based fighter, he is fighting like a D&amp;D Monk, or maybe a Dex fighter, but the Dex fighter still won’t quite get there, because it has no benefits to movement, but a Dex fighter/rogue might do it, I guess. The Brawler would need to have the ability to use objects and environmental features to make themself harder to hit, as well, to be fighting like Jackie Chan, but instead they still need to wear medium or heavy armor to survive combat. Also, they do normal weapon damage when punching, which is perfectly reasonable, and allows them to…fight like a brawler. They didn’t make it clear enough what the intended gameplay of the subclass is, and people provided negative feedback because of that. That’s it. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷‍♂️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" title="Man shrugging&nbsp; &nbsp; :man_shrugging:" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 9193513, member: 6704184"] It would be silly to not give the subclass unarmed strike benefits. That’s it. That’s the whole equation. And again, Jackie Chan is a graceful master of his own body and the environment, who is using acrobatics nearly as much as objects to wreck faces. Like, he isn’t fighting like a D&D strength based fighter, he is fighting like a D&D Monk, or maybe a Dex fighter, but the Dex fighter still won’t quite get there, because it has no benefits to movement, but a Dex fighter/rogue might do it, I guess. The Brawler would need to have the ability to use objects and environmental features to make themself harder to hit, as well, to be fighting like Jackie Chan, but instead they still need to wear medium or heavy armor to survive combat. Also, they do normal weapon damage when punching, which is perfectly reasonable, and allows them to…fight like a brawler. They didn’t make it clear enough what the intended gameplay of the subclass is, and people provided negative feedback because of that. That’s it. 🤷‍♂️ [/QUOTE]

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