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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 9195788" data-attributes="member: 23751">While I still don't agree with that, I think it's really a quibble. The end result either way is that a very large number of players like and use point buy/array.Heh.  I have a favorite point buy/array story.Like I mentioned, we don't do point buy or array as a general rule, but a few years ago one of my players ran across a convention tournament where you made high level PCs and engaged in a death match.  The rules for it were point buy or array, your choice.  He wanted the group to try it out, so we all agreed to make characters for it at the next week's meet-up.  This player of mine is the most indecisive person that I know.  He will decide on a character and change it constantly, even up to the point of changing both race and class 2 or 3 times on the day we start playing the first session.  Anyway, he went home and the next week when we all got together he sits down and says to me, "So I've been going over and over the point buy trying to find the best stats and I finally came up with 15, 14, 13, 12, 10, 8.  What do you think?"  So I opened the PHB and pointed at the array that was a few paragraphs above the point buy chart.  He just stared at the array for 5 or 10 seconds before saying, "Man! I wish I had seen that before I spent so much time on this."</blockquote>