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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 9195844" data-attributes="member: 58172"><p>On reflection.</p><p></p><p>In 1e, the magic item, Gauntlets of Ogre Power, grants the wearer a "percentile Strength" of "18 (00)". In 1e, this Strength score is the peak of Human possibility.</p><p></p><p>In 5e, this Ogre has Strength 19. By extension, this Strength score is the peak of Human possibility. 1e 18 (00) ≈ 5e 19.</p><p></p><p>In 5e, a score of 20 continues to mean superhuman.</p><p></p><p>18 is the peak of Human possibility. 19 is a "percentile" extra. 20 is full-on superhuman.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I dont want superheroes as a default standard for level 1.</p><p></p><p>(I do want superheroes as the default standard at the tiers of levels 9 and 13. Also, I think it is ok for a specific setting to have superhumans at level 1, albeit the higher tiers are more coherent in the 5e game engine for the concept.)</p><p></p><p></p><p>In every table I have played in, a score of 20 means superhuman. This includes a 1e-2e mishmash, 4e, and 5e.</p><p></p><p>I also feel it is useful for a 20 to mean a superhuman. D&D is a fantasy game. In fantasy, superhuman Strength is a central archetype, as are other ways to be superhuman. In 5e, to assign a score of 20 is how to do this archetype within the game engine.</p><p></p><p>I dont want to see the superheroic 20 be a default standard at level 1. But it is an important character concept. It should be available as a variant, when appropriate to a setting.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 9195844, member: 58172"] On reflection. In 1e, the magic item, Gauntlets of Ogre Power, grants the wearer a "percentile Strength" of "18 (00)". In 1e, this Strength score is the peak of Human possibility. In 5e, this Ogre has Strength 19. By extension, this Strength score is the peak of Human possibility. 1e 18 (00) ≈ 5e 19. In 5e, a score of 20 continues to mean superhuman. 18 is the peak of Human possibility. 19 is a "percentile" extra. 20 is full-on superhuman. I dont want superheroes as a default standard for level 1. (I do want superheroes as the default standard at the tiers of levels 9 and 13. Also, I think it is ok for a specific setting to have superhumans at level 1, albeit the higher tiers are more coherent in the 5e game engine for the concept.) In every table I have played in, a score of 20 means superhuman. This includes a 1e-2e mishmash, 4e, and 5e. I also feel it is useful for a 20 to mean a superhuman. D&D is a fantasy game. In fantasy, superhuman Strength is a central archetype, as are other ways to be superhuman. In 5e, to assign a score of 20 is how to do this archetype within the game engine. I dont want to see the superheroic 20 be a default standard at level 1. But it is an important character concept. It should be available as a variant, when appropriate to a setting. [/QUOTE]
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