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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9196326" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>DC 10 is still a 55% success rate. Do you believe most people fail half of the tasks they undertake? Well, you are going to say no becuase it is a spectrum, but again, let us look at actual DC 10 tasks. Cooks Utensil's have a DC 10 for creating a typical meal. Do you believe that the average person fails to make a meal half the time? </p><p></p><p>I also find it interesting you mention they tend to do things that they are naturally good at, and that they would have stats above a 10. That sounds dangerously close to "someone with a 10 and untrained won't try and accomplish this task" which would extend to PCs who would avoid tasks that involve them making checks in that same situation. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Really? Well, see below</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Interesting thing you did here. See, that 50/50 split was assuming proficiency and an Intelligence of 16. That's how you get a +5 mod. </p><p></p><p>What you've done here is reduce the ability score to giving a +1 or +2, then increased the proficiency giving them.... between a +5 or a +7 </p><p></p><p>So, let's take your 14 Int Doctor who is the equivalent of a level 13 character (+5 prof). That gives them a mighty +7. Looking up some information on Google, during the Rage of Demons AL season, in the module Harried in Hillsfar, it is a DC 15 check to save the life of the mother during a complicated pregnancy. </p><p></p><p>So, do you believe, that a highly trained, level 13 doctor, with what you believe to be a very high IQ, will fail to save the life of the mother during a pregnancy <strong><u>One-Third</u></strong> of the time? Or fail in a basic surgery to remove an impaled object, as is shown in Tales Trees Tell from AL Season 1? </p><p></p><p>What about complicated surgeries? A hard surgery would have a DC 20 to 25, correct? Do you believe that your level 13 doctor should a success rate between 15% to 35% on most surgeries? I will note that organ transplant surgeries have between an 87% and 96% success rate (Source: <a href="https://health.ucsd.edu/care/transplant-programs/quality/" target="_blank">Outcome Measures for Organ Transplantation | UC San Diego Health</a>)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ah! A specialist! Of course. Expertise means that those surgery rates I just listed 87% to 96% success rates on IRL on will have a success rate of 40% to 65%. </p><p></p><p>That is a 13th level doctor, with expertise, and a 14 in the relevant stat.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9196326, member: 6801228"] DC 10 is still a 55% success rate. Do you believe most people fail half of the tasks they undertake? Well, you are going to say no becuase it is a spectrum, but again, let us look at actual DC 10 tasks. Cooks Utensil's have a DC 10 for creating a typical meal. Do you believe that the average person fails to make a meal half the time? I also find it interesting you mention they tend to do things that they are naturally good at, and that they would have stats above a 10. That sounds dangerously close to "someone with a 10 and untrained won't try and accomplish this task" which would extend to PCs who would avoid tasks that involve them making checks in that same situation. Really? Well, see below Interesting thing you did here. See, that 50/50 split was assuming proficiency and an Intelligence of 16. That's how you get a +5 mod. What you've done here is reduce the ability score to giving a +1 or +2, then increased the proficiency giving them.... between a +5 or a +7 So, let's take your 14 Int Doctor who is the equivalent of a level 13 character (+5 prof). That gives them a mighty +7. Looking up some information on Google, during the Rage of Demons AL season, in the module Harried in Hillsfar, it is a DC 15 check to save the life of the mother during a complicated pregnancy. So, do you believe, that a highly trained, level 13 doctor, with what you believe to be a very high IQ, will fail to save the life of the mother during a pregnancy [B][U]One-Third[/U][/B] of the time? Or fail in a basic surgery to remove an impaled object, as is shown in Tales Trees Tell from AL Season 1? What about complicated surgeries? A hard surgery would have a DC 20 to 25, correct? Do you believe that your level 13 doctor should a success rate between 15% to 35% on most surgeries? I will note that organ transplant surgeries have between an 87% and 96% success rate (Source: [URL="https://health.ucsd.edu/care/transplant-programs/quality/"]Outcome Measures for Organ Transplantation | UC San Diego Health[/URL]) Ah! A specialist! Of course. Expertise means that those surgery rates I just listed 87% to 96% success rates on IRL on will have a success rate of 40% to 65%. That is a 13th level doctor, with expertise, and a 14 in the relevant stat. [/QUOTE]
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