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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9199516" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Great, so back to my point. With a +0, no expertise, no apprentice assisting, no magical tools or bespoke workshops, a plot relevant check of the difficulty between 10 (Cook a meal, mend a hole in cloth, ect) or 15 (make a pot, start a fire with alchemical supplies, tailor some common clothes) you would have a success rate of 30% to 55%. That is not being average at something. That is sucking at the task in question, when your HIGH END is a coin flip. And if you want to do something difficult? A DC 20 like ignoring the effects of alcohol after drinking, forging a signature, or disguising yourself as another person? That is a 5% chance of success and a 95% chance of failure. And that is too low. It's too low. You don't even need to get that -1 modifier, which makes DC 20 impossible to reach without proficiency, a person with a +0 is going to fail in that subset of abilities far far far more than they succeed, and only the easiest tasks you would never roll for gives them even a 50/50 shot at success.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9199516, member: 6801228"] Great, so back to my point. With a +0, no expertise, no apprentice assisting, no magical tools or bespoke workshops, a plot relevant check of the difficulty between 10 (Cook a meal, mend a hole in cloth, ect) or 15 (make a pot, start a fire with alchemical supplies, tailor some common clothes) you would have a success rate of 30% to 55%. That is not being average at something. That is sucking at the task in question, when your HIGH END is a coin flip. And if you want to do something difficult? A DC 20 like ignoring the effects of alcohol after drinking, forging a signature, or disguising yourself as another person? That is a 5% chance of success and a 95% chance of failure. And that is too low. It's too low. You don't even need to get that -1 modifier, which makes DC 20 impossible to reach without proficiency, a person with a +0 is going to fail in that subset of abilities far far far more than they succeed, and only the easiest tasks you would never roll for gives them even a 50/50 shot at success. [/QUOTE]

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