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<blockquote data-quote="FitzTheRuke" data-source="post: 9199875" data-attributes="member: 59816"><p>All I'm trying to illustrate is that you are taking the 5-word simple examples AND the way that checks are rolled (and when and if they are rolled) FAR FAR too much to heart when trying to create some sort of connection (that does not exist) between the skill system (which is designed for the game, for PCs, and for DM interpretations) and then trying to compare it to any real-life "cooking" or "sewing" or <em>whatever task</em> and find fault in it.</p><p></p><p>My point IS 1) It's not supposed to be taken so literally; 2) It's not supposed to be used for habitual tasks by professionals).</p><p></p><p>It simply has never been meant to line up as "Roll to cook a meal successfully" HAHA! "You fail HALF the time!" </p><p></p><p>That's just not how the skill system works. It's not that tight, and never has been. On top of THAT, the examples they give (like my arguments) are often off-the-cuff and not meant to be an exhaustively perfect answer to any given question.</p><p></p><p>For example: NO, I am not saying that Crawford "fundamentally misunderstands the game he writes for". We have NO IDEA who wrote that example, and if HE did, it doesn't mean that it's the best example of a dc10. It means that it's a quick example of a possible dc10 that a DM <em>might</em> want to use if they can't think of anything better. </p><p></p><p> A dc10 is a quick example of something easy, that you're probably never going to have to roll for. That's its <em>point</em>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FitzTheRuke, post: 9199875, member: 59816"] All I'm trying to illustrate is that you are taking the 5-word simple examples AND the way that checks are rolled (and when and if they are rolled) FAR FAR too much to heart when trying to create some sort of connection (that does not exist) between the skill system (which is designed for the game, for PCs, and for DM interpretations) and then trying to compare it to any real-life "cooking" or "sewing" or [I]whatever task[/I] and find fault in it. My point IS 1) It's not supposed to be taken so literally; 2) It's not supposed to be used for habitual tasks by professionals). It simply has never been meant to line up as "Roll to cook a meal successfully" HAHA! "You fail HALF the time!" That's just not how the skill system works. It's not that tight, and never has been. On top of THAT, the examples they give (like my arguments) are often off-the-cuff and not meant to be an exhaustively perfect answer to any given question. For example: NO, I am not saying that Crawford "fundamentally misunderstands the game he writes for". We have NO IDEA who wrote that example, and if HE did, it doesn't mean that it's the best example of a dc10. It means that it's a quick example of a possible dc10 that a DM [I]might[/I] want to use if they can't think of anything better. A dc10 is a quick example of something easy, that you're probably never going to have to roll for. That's its [I]point[/I]. [/QUOTE]
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