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<blockquote data-quote="Derren" data-source="post: 5033692" data-attributes="member: 2518"><p>If you wouldn't be so blinded by your love for 4E you might actually recognize that the VG market can't be compared to 20 years ago, when turn based games still sold well, and that the name "D&D" doesn't have much impact there because of some very mixed games which were directly marketed with the "D&D" label (Dragonshard, DDO), while the good games are known by their own name (Baldurs Gate, Neverwinter Nights)</p><p></p><p>And turn based games still selling well on the NDS? Yes. Do you want a NDS only D&D game (forgetting for a moment that the 4E combat system is much more complicated than the NDS turn based games)?</p><p></p><p>A 4E game, similar in scope to Neverwinter Nights or Dragon Age must appeal to more people than some D&D Nerds willing to spend 2 hours for each combat. VGs of todays age are much too expensive as to produce them for small niche groups (and the "D&D player who plays VGs is very small) as to be profitable (unless they are very simple, somthing RPGs aren't).</p><p></p><p>Yes, NWNs and even Dragon Age combat is technically turn based. But they can be played in real time and that is the important part. 4Es combat system, with all its interrupts and pushing can't.</p><p></p><p>So, to make the system workable, you have to heavily change the system. And then you can simply create your own system anyway.</p><p>Except for the D&D name (which brings more angry nerds than blind fanboys to the table) 4E doesn't offer anything which would make it attractive. No well known setting (4E got rid of that), no hype (because of previous D&D flop titles) and an annoying IP holder (Hasbro) which can dictate you terms 8and of course wants to be paied for you using the license)</p><p>And for what? Dragon Age offers more concrete information than the 4E default setting.</p><p></p><p>But you can of course close your eyes and tell yourself that Atari & all otehr publishers are stupid to not make a D&D game cause it will be the best game ever made and will sell billions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Derren, post: 5033692, member: 2518"] If you wouldn't be so blinded by your love for 4E you might actually recognize that the VG market can't be compared to 20 years ago, when turn based games still sold well, and that the name "D&D" doesn't have much impact there because of some very mixed games which were directly marketed with the "D&D" label (Dragonshard, DDO), while the good games are known by their own name (Baldurs Gate, Neverwinter Nights) And turn based games still selling well on the NDS? Yes. Do you want a NDS only D&D game (forgetting for a moment that the 4E combat system is much more complicated than the NDS turn based games)? A 4E game, similar in scope to Neverwinter Nights or Dragon Age must appeal to more people than some D&D Nerds willing to spend 2 hours for each combat. VGs of todays age are much too expensive as to produce them for small niche groups (and the "D&D player who plays VGs is very small) as to be profitable (unless they are very simple, somthing RPGs aren't). Yes, NWNs and even Dragon Age combat is technically turn based. But they can be played in real time and that is the important part. 4Es combat system, with all its interrupts and pushing can't. So, to make the system workable, you have to heavily change the system. And then you can simply create your own system anyway. Except for the D&D name (which brings more angry nerds than blind fanboys to the table) 4E doesn't offer anything which would make it attractive. No well known setting (4E got rid of that), no hype (because of previous D&D flop titles) and an annoying IP holder (Hasbro) which can dictate you terms 8and of course wants to be paied for you using the license) And for what? Dragon Age offers more concrete information than the 4E default setting. But you can of course close your eyes and tell yourself that Atari & all otehr publishers are stupid to not make a D&D game cause it will be the best game ever made and will sell billions. [/QUOTE]
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