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<blockquote data-quote="Wrahn" data-source="post: 1446108" data-attributes="member: 9191">While in principle I believe you are correct, a couple of things occured to me, to prompt me to place the warning.&nbsp; First, while Gate can not be used to travel from point to point in the same plane, it does not make that specification under the calling of a being.&nbsp; Though, were I running the game I would impose that limitation, it does not prevent said ambushers from going to another plane (after all they have access to gate) and doing it from there.Second, there is no save versus gate and no spell resistence either and most of the the immunities assume an unbeatable spell resistence.&nbsp; A case could be made that forbiddence couldn't protect against it as there is no spell resistence allowed (for instance it was possible to maze an Iron Golem in 3.0).&nbsp; However in the current climate, I doubt that particular argument would fly.I agree, it is unlikely that it will come into play, it was just a piece of my experience that I thinking of and thought I should warn those who it may (though unlikely) effect.&nbsp; To my knowledge they have no clue who the &quot;Battle Lords&quot; are other than Dan and Zan, so this is just something to keep in mind once the game advances.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Wrahn, post: 1446108, member: 9191"] While in principle I believe you are correct, a couple of things occured to me, to prompt me to place the warning. First, while Gate can not be used to travel from point to point in the same plane, it does not make that specification under the calling of a being. Though, were I running the game I would impose that limitation, it does not prevent said ambushers from going to another plane (after all they have access to gate) and doing it from there. Second, there is no save versus gate and no spell resistence either and most of the the immunities assume an unbeatable spell resistence. A case could be made that forbiddence couldn't protect against it as there is no spell resistence allowed (for instance it was possible to maze an Iron Golem in 3.0). However in the current climate, I doubt that particular argument would fly. I agree, it is unlikely that it will come into play, it was just a piece of my experience that I thinking of and thought I should warn those who it may (though unlikely) effect. To my knowledge they have no clue who the "Battle Lords" are other than Dan and Zan, so this is just something to keep in mind once the game advances. [/QUOTE]

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