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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 5115055" data-attributes="member: 2209">CR is a useful rule of thumb. Pathfinder does use it as well. There was some re-evaluation as people got more experience with the system and some things got changed when the system went from 3.0 to 3.5 and then Paizo did some changes going from 3.5 to Pathfinder.For instance ogres are CR 2 in 3.0 and are re-evaluated to CR 3 in 3.5 I believe.Vault of Tzathar Rho has an ogre in it and was originally an early 3.0 one. I think there was a 3.5 revision and reissue of it. An ogre is a very dangerous encounter for a 1st level party, he can kill a 1st level PC with one shot very easily.In Pathfinder I believe Paizo kept the CRs the same but changed some monster abilities to fit their CR better. As an example I think they changed the low CR allip to do temporary wisdom damage which low level characters can handle instead of permanent wisdom drain which higher level characters can cure but lower level ones lack the resources to do anything about.</blockquote>