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<blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 7989878" data-attributes="member: 6785785"><p>So to offer an example that comes to mind for me with my group....and this may not be exactly the kind of thing that the OP had in mind, but I think it fits....my D&D players struggled with the Engagement Roll and Flashbacks in Blades in the Dark.</p><p></p><p>These are guys who have been playing RPGs for decades. Experienced gamers, having played a good number of different games. But most were one form of D&D or another, or else games that function very similarly. </p><p></p><p>So in Blades, the idea is for the players to come up with an idea for a Score (a job they’ll go on....something to steal, someone to kill, etc.). All they’re supposed to determine is a general approach (such as stealth, assault, social, deception, etc.) and then one detail (point of entry, means of deception, etc.). The game literally only wants these two things. “We’re going to sneak in to steal the artifact, and we’ll do it through the underground tunnels.” That’s it. Then you roll the engagement roll, and the result determines the situation as the Score begins. </p><p></p><p>The actual details of “the plan” are then decided in play. Playeds are also allowed to use Flashbacks to help set up actions they already took that can help them in the present.</p><p></p><p>My players were very used to coming up with a detailed plan ahead of time. They’d discuss and debate ahead of time, and come up with contingencies and all that. Sometimes that’s fun. Sometimes a lot of time is wasted on things that may never come up. </p><p></p><p>Blades jumps right to the action and lets the players plan on the fly. It’s very different and can be a real challenge for some players to grasp and to get good at it. </p><p></p><p>The player who took to it most readily in my group was the one who had the least amount of gaming experience. Only a few years to the decades of the others.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hawkeyefan, post: 7989878, member: 6785785"] So to offer an example that comes to mind for me with my group....and this may not be exactly the kind of thing that the OP had in mind, but I think it fits....my D&D players struggled with the Engagement Roll and Flashbacks in Blades in the Dark. These are guys who have been playing RPGs for decades. Experienced gamers, having played a good number of different games. But most were one form of D&D or another, or else games that function very similarly. So in Blades, the idea is for the players to come up with an idea for a Score (a job they’ll go on....something to steal, someone to kill, etc.). All they’re supposed to determine is a general approach (such as stealth, assault, social, deception, etc.) and then one detail (point of entry, means of deception, etc.). The game literally only wants these two things. “We’re going to sneak in to steal the artifact, and we’ll do it through the underground tunnels.” That’s it. Then you roll the engagement roll, and the result determines the situation as the Score begins. The actual details of “the plan” are then decided in play. Playeds are also allowed to use Flashbacks to help set up actions they already took that can help them in the present. My players were very used to coming up with a detailed plan ahead of time. They’d discuss and debate ahead of time, and come up with contingencies and all that. Sometimes that’s fun. Sometimes a lot of time is wasted on things that may never come up. Blades jumps right to the action and lets the players plan on the fly. It’s very different and can be a real challenge for some players to grasp and to get good at it. The player who took to it most readily in my group was the one who had the least amount of gaming experience. Only a few years to the decades of the others. [/QUOTE]
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