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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5850110" data-attributes="member: 22779">See, TwinB, I'm really not sure they can play well together, mostly because of the focus.&nbsp; If you are in an Epic Fantasy story, but the focus is all about these four guys and what they do, then that's far closer to S&amp;S fantasy.&nbsp; Glen Cook's Black Company stories are exactly this.&nbsp; We focus on one or two characters through the whole thing, despite this vast, world changing event that is sweeping the story.But, D&amp;D, traditionally, doesn't work that way.&nbsp; As your character advances in levels, his role in the world changes.&nbsp; He gains title, he becomes the leader of something or other, he's the world's greatest sorcerer, etc.&nbsp; And that's where the focus on the micro level falls down.&nbsp; It doesn't make sense for the emperor to go on adventures.&nbsp; It really doesn't make sense for the Emperor, the Grand High Priest and the head of the Medici Family to get together and assault Hell.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />But, that's what we do in very high level D&amp;D.&nbsp; I'm saying that the Companion rules in Basic/Expert D&amp;D probably had the right idea.&nbsp; Move the camera back a bit.&nbsp; Your character is still important.&nbsp; Of course he is.&nbsp; But, the focus is on more macro level events.&nbsp; Your character has the wherewithal to actually make these events happen.&nbsp; But, the rules mostly leave you hanging when trying to deal with this.That's where I'd like to see Epic levels go.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 5850110, member: 22779"] See, TwinB, I'm really not sure they can play well together, mostly because of the focus. If you are in an Epic Fantasy story, but the focus is all about these four guys and what they do, then that's far closer to S&S fantasy. Glen Cook's Black Company stories are exactly this. We focus on one or two characters through the whole thing, despite this vast, world changing event that is sweeping the story. But, D&D, traditionally, doesn't work that way. As your character advances in levels, his role in the world changes. He gains title, he becomes the leader of something or other, he's the world's greatest sorcerer, etc. And that's where the focus on the micro level falls down. It doesn't make sense for the emperor to go on adventures. It really doesn't make sense for the Emperor, the Grand High Priest and the head of the Medici Family to get together and assault Hell. :D But, that's what we do in very high level D&D. I'm saying that the Companion rules in Basic/Expert D&D probably had the right idea. Move the camera back a bit. Your character is still important. Of course he is. But, the focus is on more macro level events. Your character has the wherewithal to actually make these events happen. But, the rules mostly leave you hanging when trying to deal with this. That's where I'd like to see Epic levels go. [/QUOTE]

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