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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 6282104" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>First I am not going down that silly sandwich analogy. You know what an adventure is. I know what an adventure is. Neither of us needs to turn to an analogy (and a terrible one at that) to understand each other. </p><p></p><p>Second, it's not "what I want". There are optional things you can take or leave for an adventure, and there are necessary things you need. For a dungeon, one necessary thing you need is room details. Eg. your players enter a room. They ask you what it looks like. You answer...? If you need to add all those details, then it's not supplying all the things needed for an adventure - just some of them. </p><p></p><p>Room details are a necessary element of an adventure, it's not really a matter of subjectivity that's one of the objective items you need to call something a complete adventure. One optional way to present such details is a box of text, but that's not necessary. But some details? Yeah, some details are necessary. For example, Level 1, run 5, says a hobgoblin and 4 goblins live there. So if they live there...there must be something in the room they are living with? A place to sleep? Table? Chest? Some details are obviously missing here.</p><p></p><p>It's audience has spoken in this thread, and they all said they need to add details to run it. Remember, the mention of "this level feels like it's water based, so I added...".</p><p></p><p>I didn't say it doesn't meet the needs of it's audience (indeed I said the opposite - it meets their needs fine, and it is cool for what it is). I said it's not, in itself, a complete adventure. Instead it's a tool, the rough notes that you can use to run a complete adventure by filling in some details yourself.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 6282104, member: 2525"] First I am not going down that silly sandwich analogy. You know what an adventure is. I know what an adventure is. Neither of us needs to turn to an analogy (and a terrible one at that) to understand each other. Second, it's not "what I want". There are optional things you can take or leave for an adventure, and there are necessary things you need. For a dungeon, one necessary thing you need is room details. Eg. your players enter a room. They ask you what it looks like. You answer...? If you need to add all those details, then it's not supplying all the things needed for an adventure - just some of them. Room details are a necessary element of an adventure, it's not really a matter of subjectivity that's one of the objective items you need to call something a complete adventure. One optional way to present such details is a box of text, but that's not necessary. But some details? Yeah, some details are necessary. For example, Level 1, run 5, says a hobgoblin and 4 goblins live there. So if they live there...there must be something in the room they are living with? A place to sleep? Table? Chest? Some details are obviously missing here. It's audience has spoken in this thread, and they all said they need to add details to run it. Remember, the mention of "this level feels like it's water based, so I added...". I didn't say it doesn't meet the needs of it's audience (indeed I said the opposite - it meets their needs fine, and it is cool for what it is). I said it's not, in itself, a complete adventure. Instead it's a tool, the rough notes that you can use to run a complete adventure by filling in some details yourself. [/QUOTE]
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