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<blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 7972164" data-attributes="member: 6716779"><p>True but it's also things like property prices.</p><p></p><p>Older GenXers could buy houses at 3 years wages like my sisters first house.</p><p></p><p>Some boomers were able to buy houses with one years pay. One I knew worked a lot if overtime one year and bought one for cash up front. And that didn't require a millionaire type job.</p><p></p><p>Older boomers in the USA benefitted from the post war housing push.</p><p></p><p>My sisters first house was 3 years wages, ours was 5 years, now it's around 10-20 years wages. That's the average wage and most people don't get that average wage.</p><p></p><p>So sure you do get the odd zoomer in actech type job. That's not typical income though and gave you seen property prices in Seattle?</p><p></p><p>A $40000 house in the 80's can be a million dollar home now.</p><p></p><p>Average wage hasn't gone up by a factor of 20. My suburb they're about 10 times more expensive than the early 80s. Wages aren't 10 times higher.</p><p></p><p>Official figures also backs this up. Boomers on paper are worth more than Xers who are worth more than zoomers.</p><p></p><p>Not only have they had more time to collect assets they had it easier as well.</p><p></p><p>Here for example pre 1993 you got free university as well so if you graduated in say computing in the 80s no student loan and you got in on the ground floor with Microsoft/Apple or later Amazon/Google.</p><p></p><p>If you had money to invest late 90s Apple was in a lot of trouble then they invented the Ipod around 2001 iirc.</p><p></p><p>Some people also have grandfathered contracts from 80s and 90s or earlier where they get double time for overtime hours which new employees don't.</p><p></p><p>So do some zoomers have it good. Yes absolutely. If they had the equivalent position in the 80s (top 10% or whatever) you had it even easier.</p><p></p><p>There was no major sharemarket crash 1929-87 either.</p><p></p><p>Some people I met dropped out if school aged 15, got job had first home debt free aged 18.</p><p></p><p>Wanna drop out of school aged 15 now without being a kid genius? How many jobs can you work the weekend now and get $75 dollars an hour without a degree and without building cars?</p><p></p><p>That was one of my friends in 2000 who played D&D. You could work one season and gave house deposit or sod off to the UK.</p><p></p><p>Can't get that now unless you have an old contract from back then. That wasn't a tech job but a school dropout type job paying 1-2k a week 20 years ago.</p><p></p><p>How about a 250k job no degree required? Highest paid truck driver at my wife's work.</p><p></p><p>School dropout non tech job property investment portfolio by age 30. Age 50 now worth around 20 million last I heard.</p><p></p><p>That's what I meant.</p><p></p><p>Or farm worker owns million dollar boat, hovercraft and private wharf.</p><p></p><p>Higher wages, cheaper house prices, cheaper share prices, free tertiary education just by being born in say 1970. Doctor or dentist, student loan 0.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zardnaar, post: 7972164, member: 6716779"] True but it's also things like property prices. Older GenXers could buy houses at 3 years wages like my sisters first house. Some boomers were able to buy houses with one years pay. One I knew worked a lot if overtime one year and bought one for cash up front. And that didn't require a millionaire type job. Older boomers in the USA benefitted from the post war housing push. My sisters first house was 3 years wages, ours was 5 years, now it's around 10-20 years wages. That's the average wage and most people don't get that average wage. So sure you do get the odd zoomer in actech type job. That's not typical income though and gave you seen property prices in Seattle? A $40000 house in the 80's can be a million dollar home now. Average wage hasn't gone up by a factor of 20. My suburb they're about 10 times more expensive than the early 80s. Wages aren't 10 times higher. Official figures also backs this up. Boomers on paper are worth more than Xers who are worth more than zoomers. Not only have they had more time to collect assets they had it easier as well. Here for example pre 1993 you got free university as well so if you graduated in say computing in the 80s no student loan and you got in on the ground floor with Microsoft/Apple or later Amazon/Google. If you had money to invest late 90s Apple was in a lot of trouble then they invented the Ipod around 2001 iirc. Some people also have grandfathered contracts from 80s and 90s or earlier where they get double time for overtime hours which new employees don't. So do some zoomers have it good. Yes absolutely. If they had the equivalent position in the 80s (top 10% or whatever) you had it even easier. There was no major sharemarket crash 1929-87 either. Some people I met dropped out if school aged 15, got job had first home debt free aged 18. Wanna drop out of school aged 15 now without being a kid genius? How many jobs can you work the weekend now and get $75 dollars an hour without a degree and without building cars? That was one of my friends in 2000 who played D&D. You could work one season and gave house deposit or sod off to the UK. Can't get that now unless you have an old contract from back then. That wasn't a tech job but a school dropout type job paying 1-2k a week 20 years ago. How about a 250k job no degree required? Highest paid truck driver at my wife's work. School dropout non tech job property investment portfolio by age 30. Age 50 now worth around 20 million last I heard. That's what I meant. Or farm worker owns million dollar boat, hovercraft and private wharf. Higher wages, cheaper house prices, cheaper share prices, free tertiary education just by being born in say 1970. Doctor or dentist, student loan 0. [/QUOTE]
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