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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9095647" data-attributes="member: 18">Then for god's sake don't put the punk in the name. It's just insulting to the critical source material that they're turning into a cheesy aesthetic.Being hopeful and exuberant about the 1800s, to me, strikes me as profoundly messed-up and creepy as hell. It's not re-appropriating the tools of the oppressor (and you cannot build your house with the tools of the oppressor anyway), it's just mindlessly celebrating the aesthetic of horrific people and horrific times.And it's pretty silly to make out cyberpunk as a genre was just about hating and fearing Japan when some of the best cyberpunk came OUT of Japan. In the West there was certainly some Japan-o-phobia, but that's actually better express in non-cyberpunk genre fiction of the day. No cyberpunk novel I'm aware of is remotely as fetishistic about or fearful/hateful of Japan as say, Michael Critchon's Rising Sun, for example. And that's a pretty high bar given Idoru exists.</blockquote>