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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 9095946" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>When it comes to all the campaign settings WotC has thus far done for 5E, it seems like there's one main pattern in the responses to them:</p><p></p><p>Settings that originated prior to 5E and which WotC updated for 5E are considered bad (if not worse) because the people who decry them seem to be comparing them to everything that got published previous to 5E. And that the 5E book did not do those settings justice.</p><p></p><p>Which I can understand to a certain extent... you can't create detail in a single book that you received over the dozens of products you received previously... but it always has made me ask why those people just don't use their older setting products if they really are so much better than the 5E product WotC produced? Why do they care so much about the 5E product and the fact it's supposedly bad? If you own the older products already or if you want to get them you can just go onto DMs Guild and pick them up... why not run the game the way you want using them? And use the 5E product merely as a template for which you can create whatever mechanical needs you have to have for it?</p><p></p><p>The settings that have had the least pushback have been the three Magic: The Gathering settings, because those are the three that have not had any previous product to compare to and make people realize/believe the 5E version isn't as "good" or as "in depth" as the old ones were. If WotC really cared about the negative opinions of setting enthusiasts, they'd do nothing but create all-new ones so that players would think what they got was a treasure trove of goodness. And yet ironically we still see any number of enthusiasts for past settings waiting with baited breath for when Dark Sun... or Greyhawk... or Mystara... or any other settings of the sort FINALLY get the update to 5E that they want. Even when all of us know in our heart of hearts they aren't actually going to be happy with them and think the products suck. It happened with Ravenloft, it happened with Dragonlance, it happened with Spelljammer, it's about to happen with Planescape.</p><p></p><p>If you love a setting, play with what you already got. Don't wait for WotC and 5E. You'll be happier if you do.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 9095946, member: 7006"] When it comes to all the campaign settings WotC has thus far done for 5E, it seems like there's one main pattern in the responses to them: Settings that originated prior to 5E and which WotC updated for 5E are considered bad (if not worse) because the people who decry them seem to be comparing them to everything that got published previous to 5E. And that the 5E book did not do those settings justice. Which I can understand to a certain extent... you can't create detail in a single book that you received over the dozens of products you received previously... but it always has made me ask why those people just don't use their older setting products if they really are so much better than the 5E product WotC produced? Why do they care so much about the 5E product and the fact it's supposedly bad? If you own the older products already or if you want to get them you can just go onto DMs Guild and pick them up... why not run the game the way you want using them? And use the 5E product merely as a template for which you can create whatever mechanical needs you have to have for it? The settings that have had the least pushback have been the three Magic: The Gathering settings, because those are the three that have not had any previous product to compare to and make people realize/believe the 5E version isn't as "good" or as "in depth" as the old ones were. If WotC really cared about the negative opinions of setting enthusiasts, they'd do nothing but create all-new ones so that players would think what they got was a treasure trove of goodness. And yet ironically we still see any number of enthusiasts for past settings waiting with baited breath for when Dark Sun... or Greyhawk... or Mystara... or any other settings of the sort FINALLY get the update to 5E that they want. Even when all of us know in our heart of hearts they aren't actually going to be happy with them and think the products suck. It happened with Ravenloft, it happened with Dragonlance, it happened with Spelljammer, it's about to happen with Planescape. If you love a setting, play with what you already got. Don't wait for WotC and 5E. You'll be happier if you do. [/QUOTE]
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