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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DarkCrisis" data-source="post: 9281200" data-attributes="member: 1788">As someone who DM/GMS a group of mostly people introduced to RPGs via 5E and had them try other games and genres., Trust me.  Getting them to "scale down" from 5E is rough.  We've tried everything from Vampire to Shadowrun to Cthulhu to AD&D to Walking Dead to The One Ring etc etc etc. And while yes I can only tell you about MY group, believe me, scaling down is hard for some of them.  One of players, if whatever character she's playing in whatever game isnt about as powerful as her 5E Dwarf Druid, she's generally not happy.Which is probably why they all liked Vampire tM, because you are powerful compared to humans.</blockquote>