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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 9285165" data-attributes="member: 22779">But, you have no evidence of this.You have zero evidence to suggest that people &quot;most likely to engage in the playtests&quot; hold stronger or weaker opinions about the design of D&amp;D.&nbsp; That's an interpretation you've created in order to justify why they should not listen to the feedback they are getting from the fandom.Unfortunately, that ship has LONG sailed.&nbsp; From Paizo doing it's playtest for Pathfinder on forward, there is zero chance that you are going to see major changes in D&amp;D without directly engaging the fandom in as broad a method as possible.&nbsp;&nbsp; The fact that you insist that the playtests are &quot;half-assed&quot; and &quot;don'T actually produce useful feedback&quot; are entirely your own inventions.&nbsp; You have no proof of this.&nbsp; You have no evidence to support this.&nbsp; It's just your opinion. Which is fine.&nbsp; You can hold whatever opinion you like.&nbsp; But, you are presenting it as a fact.&nbsp; Which is why I keep referring to it as the &quot;cabal&quot;.&nbsp; Because you have already weaponized your opinion before you even started.&nbsp; You don't like the results of the playtests and thus need to find some way to justify why the playtests should be ignored.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 9285165, member: 22779"] But, you have no evidence of this. You have zero evidence to suggest that people "most likely to engage in the playtests" hold stronger or weaker opinions about the design of D&D. That's an interpretation you've created in order to justify why they should not listen to the feedback they are getting from the fandom. Unfortunately, that ship has LONG sailed. From Paizo doing it's playtest for Pathfinder on forward, there is zero chance that you are going to see major changes in D&D without directly engaging the fandom in as broad a method as possible. The fact that you insist that the playtests are "half-assed" and "don'T actually produce useful feedback" are entirely your own inventions. You have no proof of this. You have no evidence to support this. It's just your opinion. Which is fine. You can hold whatever opinion you like. But, you are presenting it as a fact. Which is why I keep referring to it as the "cabal". Because you have already weaponized your opinion before you even started. You don't like the results of the playtests and thus need to find some way to justify why the playtests should be ignored. [/QUOTE]

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