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<blockquote data-quote="Rystil Arden" data-source="post: 3132572" data-attributes="member: 29014"><p>"You are either a complete idiot, completely evil, or such an arrogant and deluded jackass that you can't take anyone into consideration except yourself and care nothing for others. We suspect the last with traces of the first."</p><p></p><p>"The soldiers are our ENEMIES, and you were on the brink of allowing them to take us into custody, solely because you used your magic to pacify the group. We would all be kept in containment by our enemies because of your stupidity, and not by our own choice, but because you TOOK AWAY that choice. That is the essence of evil, of oppression. Killing can be evil sometimes, and sometimes it is a necessity. Taking away someone else's choice and forcing your own? That is always evil. Always."</p><p></p><p>"At the end of that twenty seconds, Ironwolf had made zero progress towards getting his crystal--absolutely none, and not only were we not going to be able to resist them, they were going to capture us and escort us, fully armed and armoured, into the middle of a camp filled with hundreds of soldiers who wished us ill--a camp we had no chance to escape if we needed to. We had, in short, <u>lost</u>."</p><p></p><p>"But perhaps you don't agree with our analysis. That is fair. You are entitled to your opinion on the matter. However, the reason you are the most wretched scum we have ever seen is because you do NOT respect the other point of view. If you can't see how the viewpoint that we had <u>lost</u> by being escorted into a camp of enemies was equally valid to your own, then you are either stupid or lying. The fact that you <em>disallowed</em> others to make that choice makes you tyrannous."</p><p></p><p>"As to our attacking them right away--that's a nice bit of propaganda, but it isn't true. <em>We</em> respected the other people in this group, even you. If we didn't we would have hit them all right away with one spell and ended the fight then and there. We weren't affected by your puny magic, and we could have. But we didn't. We simply asked to be left alone and left, heading away from Duvik. When we were chased, thus proving they wanted to detain us no matter what, we <em>still</em> didn't attack. Ironwolf and Hulgyr attacked before we did, as evidenced by the shouting we heard before the battle broke out. Ask Eternity and Almayce to confirm this. So you can stuff your lies right back where you have suggested for us to place our truths."</p><p></p><p>"And speaking of evil vicious lies--perhaps the worst thing you have mentioned has come just now. You would turn in one of your fellows to your enemies and lie to them to curry their favour and save your own skin? You truly are a blackguard, Michael Grannion."</p><p></p><p>(OOC: I don't remember being barred from Fallon--are you thinking of the crazy knights that weren't Fallon at all?)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rystil Arden, post: 3132572, member: 29014"] "You are either a complete idiot, completely evil, or such an arrogant and deluded jackass that you can't take anyone into consideration except yourself and care nothing for others. We suspect the last with traces of the first." "The soldiers are our ENEMIES, and you were on the brink of allowing them to take us into custody, solely because you used your magic to pacify the group. We would all be kept in containment by our enemies because of your stupidity, and not by our own choice, but because you TOOK AWAY that choice. That is the essence of evil, of oppression. Killing can be evil sometimes, and sometimes it is a necessity. Taking away someone else's choice and forcing your own? That is always evil. Always." "At the end of that twenty seconds, Ironwolf had made zero progress towards getting his crystal--absolutely none, and not only were we not going to be able to resist them, they were going to capture us and escort us, fully armed and armoured, into the middle of a camp filled with hundreds of soldiers who wished us ill--a camp we had no chance to escape if we needed to. We had, in short, [U]lost[/U]." "But perhaps you don't agree with our analysis. That is fair. You are entitled to your opinion on the matter. However, the reason you are the most wretched scum we have ever seen is because you do NOT respect the other point of view. If you can't see how the viewpoint that we had [U]lost[/U] by being escorted into a camp of enemies was equally valid to your own, then you are either stupid or lying. The fact that you [I]disallowed[/I] others to make that choice makes you tyrannous." "As to our attacking them right away--that's a nice bit of propaganda, but it isn't true. [I]We[/I] respected the other people in this group, even you. If we didn't we would have hit them all right away with one spell and ended the fight then and there. We weren't affected by your puny magic, and we could have. But we didn't. We simply asked to be left alone and left, heading away from Duvik. When we were chased, thus proving they wanted to detain us no matter what, we [I]still[/I] didn't attack. Ironwolf and Hulgyr attacked before we did, as evidenced by the shouting we heard before the battle broke out. Ask Eternity and Almayce to confirm this. So you can stuff your lies right back where you have suggested for us to place our truths." "And speaking of evil vicious lies--perhaps the worst thing you have mentioned has come just now. You would turn in one of your fellows to your enemies and lie to them to curry their favour and save your own skin? You truly are a blackguard, Michael Grannion." (OOC: I don't remember being barred from Fallon--are you thinking of the crazy knights that weren't Fallon at all?) [/QUOTE]
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