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Message: <blockquote data-quote="buzz" data-source="post: 2334461" data-attributes="member: 6777">I am admittedly a Grumpy Old Fart™ when it comes to GWd20. But, no I don't think that any of the books is really worth the investment. $170 (retail) may sound reasonable for 876pp of material, but, IMO, said page count is very padded and of questionable quality. Just about every other post-apoc d20 product I've seen does a better job in much less page count and for less money. E.g., d20A's 96pp manages to fit in a more detailed (and mechanically sound) mutation system than GWd20 does.Thankfully, for those interested in GWd20, the products can be found in PDF form for less, and print products are often in the discount bins. WW's online store is currently selling the first four books at more than 50% off.Anyway, sorry to derail the thread. I really need to just stop reading posts that mention GWd20.  :\</blockquote>