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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scurvy_Platypus" data-source="post: 4703270" data-attributes="member: 43283">Errrr... you're kind of mixing up some things.BESM was based off the Tri-Stat system from.. 2E on as I recall. BESM 3E wasn't going back, it was simply continuing the same trend.BESMd20 was, quite frankly, actively disliked by most people online. The d20 fans disliked it for a variety of reasons, and the BESM fans disliked it because they felt that Guardians of Order was simply ignoring them and trying to cash in on the d20 craze.Basically, GoO managed to annoy their established fan-base and managed to annoy their prospective fan-base as well.Most of the BESM fans that are out there are fans of one of the various non-d20 iterations of BESM. The assumptions of BESM and the d20 system don't really mesh very well.As for a 4E thing... no. For several reasons.One, Guardians of Order is out of business.Two, White Wolf seems to be the license holder for all the BESM properties. They've demonstrated no interest in doing anything with the line. Right now, they're focused on doing their various WoD games, Exalted, and working on the Eve-online PnP rpg.Three, BESM d20 was one of those various products that I think WotC had in mind (along with Spycraft, Mutants & Masterminds, and others) that basically was "competing" with D&D. It wasn't just "here's how to use D&D to play another kind of game". Instead, it was a full on game on its own.Part of the new 4E GSL (which is basically a new name for a modified d20 STL) seems to be clamping down on things so that products like M&M, BESMd20, and others don't get spun off.So.... BESM 4E (either as a Tri-Stat or as 4E D&D).... I wouldn't hold my breath.It's possible that somewhere along the way, somone is going to be interested enough in doing a point-based version of D&D 4E that they'll figure out a way to do it. Considering how little interest there's been in point-based d20 for the past 8 years... I don't know that anyone will actually think it's worth the effort.As for Everstone in 4E. I'm _extremely_ doubtful. The author of Everstone hasn't posted online in years that I know of. Could Everstone be run under 4E? I don't have the 4E books, so I don't know for certain. My guess is, it could be run under 4E just like anything else that's 3rd Ed could be run under 4E. *shrug* The problem is, Everstone has different assumptions from BESMd20, and BESMd20 had different assumptions from d20. 4E has different assumptions from d20. I'm honestly not sure that trying to do Everstone under 4E would be worth the effort.Disclaimer: I'm nobody official. This is just my opinion on stuff, and as such it could be wrong. It's probably disagreed with by other people. If you accept my opinon as being valid, it will make you a beautiful person, but only in my eyes. Attempts to act as if you're a beautiful person outside of my opinion, could result in bodily harm or injury. The Game Police will not kick in your door, shave your cat, and melt your dice, while whacking you with a rulebook because you've decided to do something that is different than the "official" rules.However, I might shave your cat for fun.</blockquote>

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