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<blockquote data-quote="woodelf" data-source="post: 1571041" data-attributes="member: 10201"><p>First, a quote (reposted with permission) from someone who maybe actually knows. Though he's not claiming that non-D20 System stuff is doing any worse than others stuff. Mark isn't just speaking for his company, though that's obviously the one where he has the most authority, because he's been talking to a lot of other members of the GPA. </p><p> </p><p></p><p>And while i'm not sure i can quote it, i can say that at least one (other) member of the GPA who actually does distribution for a lot of small-press guys (and thus knows lots of people's numbers) has repeatedly said that (1) non-D20 System stuff does much less well, (2) sales of all RPGs is down recently, and (3) D20 System sales have declined more than non-D20 System sales, narrowing the gap.</p><p></p><p>As for your game shop, yeah, maybe you need a better one. At a rough estimate, D20 System takes up about 3 out of 7 or 8 (i forget) roughly-equal-sized shelving units, albeit with the D20 System shelves often packed more tightly. WoD is basically an entire shelving unit itself. so, at a guess, 50% of the RPGs are D20 System, with only about half of that being D&D-compatible fantasy D20 System stuff. Oh, and i'm pleased to report that Pegasus Games does a masterful job of carrying small-press stuff, too. Usually, when i come in asking them about some obscure small-press game that's just come out, they already have it, it's on order, or they had it but sold it already. That goes for non-D20 System stuff as well as D20 System stuff. They got <em>Magical Society: Culture & Ecology</em> in without me even having to suggest it to them. Which [pleasantly] surprised me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="woodelf, post: 1571041, member: 10201"] First, a quote (reposted with permission) from someone who maybe actually knows. Though he's not claiming that non-D20 System stuff is doing any worse than others stuff. Mark isn't just speaking for his company, though that's obviously the one where he has the most authority, because he's been talking to a lot of other members of the GPA. And while i'm not sure i can quote it, i can say that at least one (other) member of the GPA who actually does distribution for a lot of small-press guys (and thus knows lots of people's numbers) has repeatedly said that (1) non-D20 System stuff does much less well, (2) sales of all RPGs is down recently, and (3) D20 System sales have declined more than non-D20 System sales, narrowing the gap. As for your game shop, yeah, maybe you need a better one. At a rough estimate, D20 System takes up about 3 out of 7 or 8 (i forget) roughly-equal-sized shelving units, albeit with the D20 System shelves often packed more tightly. WoD is basically an entire shelving unit itself. so, at a guess, 50% of the RPGs are D20 System, with only about half of that being D&D-compatible fantasy D20 System stuff. Oh, and i'm pleased to report that Pegasus Games does a masterful job of carrying small-press stuff, too. Usually, when i come in asking them about some obscure small-press game that's just come out, they already have it, it's on order, or they had it but sold it already. That goes for non-D20 System stuff as well as D20 System stuff. They got [i]Magical Society: Culture & Ecology[/i] in without me even having to suggest it to them. Which [pleasantly] surprised me. [/QUOTE]
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