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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 1266745" data-attributes="member: 1465"><p>A feat that makes a cross-class skill become a class skill lets you save 1 skill/point per level. I think it's not bad! Skill Focus and the +2/2skills feats are worth less point but they also let you break the limit of 3+lv ranks.</p><p></p><p>I really think there should be something in the core rules to add skills to the class list, without multiclassing. Although generally the class skill lists make sense, they also prevent interesting characters to be made; for example, Diplomacy doesn't seem to me something that should be hampered for some classes. Anyone could be the leader of the group and the spokesman. Not having a chance (at higher levels especially) to give your character a high rank in cha-based skills usually has the effects that nobody bothers to have a high-cha Fighter or Barbarian or Wizard. Never seen a charismatic Wizard for example, altho it's quite a common figure in literature.</p><p></p><p>If you want to be more generous, instead of a feat require the character to spend something like 4 skill points at first level only to turn a skill into a class one (with no ranks).</p><p></p><p>Note that IMHO the real problem is NOT in the fact that the skill costs double, but in the fact that the max rank is half. That's what really prevents characters to take cross-class skills, since it's generally better to max-out a few skills rather than having more lower ones. As a last resort, you can HR that the max rank is the same for all skills, but the cross-class skills still cost 2 points per rank.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 1266745, member: 1465"] A feat that makes a cross-class skill become a class skill lets you save 1 skill/point per level. I think it's not bad! Skill Focus and the +2/2skills feats are worth less point but they also let you break the limit of 3+lv ranks. I really think there should be something in the core rules to add skills to the class list, without multiclassing. Although generally the class skill lists make sense, they also prevent interesting characters to be made; for example, Diplomacy doesn't seem to me something that should be hampered for some classes. Anyone could be the leader of the group and the spokesman. Not having a chance (at higher levels especially) to give your character a high rank in cha-based skills usually has the effects that nobody bothers to have a high-cha Fighter or Barbarian or Wizard. Never seen a charismatic Wizard for example, altho it's quite a common figure in literature. If you want to be more generous, instead of a feat require the character to spend something like 4 skill points at first level only to turn a skill into a class one (with no ranks). Note that IMHO the real problem is NOT in the fact that the skill costs double, but in the fact that the max rank is half. That's what really prevents characters to take cross-class skills, since it's generally better to max-out a few skills rather than having more lower ones. As a last resort, you can HR that the max rank is the same for all skills, but the cross-class skills still cost 2 points per rank. [/QUOTE]
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