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<blockquote data-quote="Professor Phobos" data-source="post: 1610181" data-attributes="member: 18883"><p>I used to defend Chaosium, but I'd say I'd agree. D20 Cthulhu was deeply flawed but also quite good and it deserved support.</p><p></p><p>Dual-statting the *excellent* Lovecraft Country books was all well and good, but they did not...</p><p></p><p>Dual Stat Dark Ages Cthulhu. The hell?</p><p></p><p>Dual Stat HP Lovecraft's Dreamlands. THE HELL? There was little point in reprinting the old Dreamlands book and changing the name (To fit an already established series set of titles, all dual statted) if you are not going to dual-stat it. In addition to that, the Dreamlands are a crazy fantasy setting that would not only be accessible to fantasy-friendly D20 folks but also be compelling and different from other fantasy settings. I can't fathom why HPL's Dreamlands wasn't dual statted.</p><p></p><p>Pulp Cthulhu would have sold to BRP and D20 fans, but it died.</p><p></p><p>Now, Chaosium has no money. This is a truth, and it takes them forever to make books. That I can live with. I can wait for quality, as they tend to produce that consistantly. But part of the reason they have no money is that they've mismanaged themselves out of an entire market when they had a perfectly strong vehicle (D20 Cthulhu) for entering it.</p><p></p><p>BRP Cthulhu is amongst the greatest RPGs ever made. To some, it is the epitomy of game design. But it is old, showing its age, and Chaosium occupies merely a niche.</p><p></p><p>In the same way, misamanagement of Cthulhu helped kill Pagan Publishing, which did nothing but produce awe-inspiringly good books that did nothing but make people want to play Call of Cthulhu.</p><p></p><p>Oh well. Dark Ages Cthulhu was actually very good, and I'm eagerly awaiting the Shadows of Yog-Sothoth reprint and, of course, Undying Mars.</p><p></p><p>Hell, the Creature Companion could have been dual statted. No fuss, no muss. It's a monster book. You people LOVE monster books!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Professor Phobos, post: 1610181, member: 18883"] I used to defend Chaosium, but I'd say I'd agree. D20 Cthulhu was deeply flawed but also quite good and it deserved support. Dual-statting the *excellent* Lovecraft Country books was all well and good, but they did not... Dual Stat Dark Ages Cthulhu. The hell? Dual Stat HP Lovecraft's Dreamlands. THE HELL? There was little point in reprinting the old Dreamlands book and changing the name (To fit an already established series set of titles, all dual statted) if you are not going to dual-stat it. In addition to that, the Dreamlands are a crazy fantasy setting that would not only be accessible to fantasy-friendly D20 folks but also be compelling and different from other fantasy settings. I can't fathom why HPL's Dreamlands wasn't dual statted. Pulp Cthulhu would have sold to BRP and D20 fans, but it died. Now, Chaosium has no money. This is a truth, and it takes them forever to make books. That I can live with. I can wait for quality, as they tend to produce that consistantly. But part of the reason they have no money is that they've mismanaged themselves out of an entire market when they had a perfectly strong vehicle (D20 Cthulhu) for entering it. BRP Cthulhu is amongst the greatest RPGs ever made. To some, it is the epitomy of game design. But it is old, showing its age, and Chaosium occupies merely a niche. In the same way, misamanagement of Cthulhu helped kill Pagan Publishing, which did nothing but produce awe-inspiringly good books that did nothing but make people want to play Call of Cthulhu. Oh well. Dark Ages Cthulhu was actually very good, and I'm eagerly awaiting the Shadows of Yog-Sothoth reprint and, of course, Undying Mars. Hell, the Creature Companion could have been dual statted. No fuss, no muss. It's a monster book. You people LOVE monster books! [/QUOTE]
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