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<blockquote data-quote="Heretic Apostate" data-source="post: 332367" data-attributes="member: 696">I'll have to disagree with Staffan here.I read the Prism Pentad.&nbsp; The Prism Pentad got me interested in Dark Sun.&nbsp; I liked Dark Sun.&nbsp; In my opinion, the Dark Sun setting was a poorly-conceived attempt to adapt the Prism Pentad to AD&amp;D 2E rules.&nbsp; And it was a mess.&nbsp; Every time they attempted to fix it, it got worse.The only difference between a preserver and a defiler is how careless they are when drawing energy from around them.&nbsp; If someone is a Wizard (defiler) 14, and they decide to become a Wizard (preserver), do they suddenly forget everything they know on how to cast spells?&nbsp; They have to learn how to draw energy more carefully, but the spells have the same components.&nbsp; So why should the character have to multiclass?&nbsp; Or lose levels to convert?&nbsp; Or have the levels become ineffective, like a paladin who strays?From what I can tell from the athas.org downloads, the only difference game-wise between a preserver and a defiler is that the defiler can draw upon more energy, and can use this energy to spontaneously add more metamagic than a preserver can.&nbsp; There doesn't seem to be a defiler &quot;taint&quot; any more.&nbsp; (Maybe I'm missing it.)As for the Templar prestige class, don't think of it as ALL templars are from this class.&nbsp; That's like saying all barbarians in a barbarian tribe MUST take the barbarian class.&nbsp; In a barbarian tribe, there are also fighters, rangers, clerics (or shaman), bards, and so forth.&nbsp; In the templarate, there are going to be a few wizard-defilers, a few assassin-bards, a lot of fighters, a bunch of psions and psychic warriors, and some rogues.&nbsp; (There aren't going to be any clerics, there might be a few misguided druids and rangers, and I can't see there being many brutes/barbarians.)&nbsp; The elite, though, are the ones who have successfully petitioned their sorceror-monarchs for spells.&nbsp; How hard is it to get to Diplomacy 8?&nbsp; It should be easy to do through multi-classing.&nbsp; (A lot of rogue levels, for instance.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Heretic Apostate, post: 332367, member: 696"] I'll have to disagree with Staffan here. I read the Prism Pentad. The Prism Pentad got me interested in Dark Sun. I liked Dark Sun. In my opinion, the Dark Sun setting was a poorly-conceived attempt to adapt the Prism Pentad to AD&D 2E rules. And it was a mess. Every time they attempted to fix it, it got worse. The only difference between a preserver and a defiler is how careless they are when drawing energy from around them. If someone is a Wizard (defiler) 14, and they decide to become a Wizard (preserver), do they suddenly forget everything they know on how to cast spells? They have to learn how to draw energy more carefully, but the spells have the same components. So why should the character have to multiclass? Or lose levels to convert? Or have the levels become ineffective, like a paladin who strays? From what I can tell from the athas.org downloads, the only difference game-wise between a preserver and a defiler is that the defiler can draw upon more energy, and can use this energy to spontaneously add more metamagic than a preserver can. There doesn't seem to be a defiler "taint" any more. (Maybe I'm missing it.) As for the Templar prestige class, don't think of it as ALL templars are from this class. That's like saying all barbarians in a barbarian tribe MUST take the barbarian class. In a barbarian tribe, there are also fighters, rangers, clerics (or shaman), bards, and so forth. In the templarate, there are going to be a few wizard-defilers, a few assassin-bards, a lot of fighters, a bunch of psions and psychic warriors, and some rogues. (There aren't going to be any clerics, there might be a few misguided druids and rangers, and I can't see there being many brutes/barbarians.) The elite, though, are the ones who have successfully petitioned their sorceror-monarchs for spells. How hard is it to get to Diplomacy 8? It should be easy to do through multi-classing. (A lot of rogue levels, for instance.) [/QUOTE]

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