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<blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 1769561" data-attributes="member: 463">&quot;Oh dear, I've been hit by a 120mm HEAT shell... and I'm only 9th level so I only have a 75% chance of making my MDC!&quot;&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />This is why I think d20 Modern sucks.&nbsp; Either the hit from this enornous shell was solid, in which case it should be doing vastly more damage (over 100d6), or it just winged/near-missed the hero, in which case the low damage is ok but a Massive Damage Fort save is wholly inappropriate.&nbsp; Nobody, even in Hollywood movies, shrugs off tank shell hits because of toughness!&nbsp; If any kind of Save is appropriate, it would be a Reflex save _before damage is rolled_, to determine whether the hit was full-on or not.&nbsp; If full-on, then realistic damage (or just automatic death) should apply.&nbsp; If not full-on, _then_ some smaller amount of damage becomes appropriate.&nbsp; So a possible workaround for heavy weapons vs d20 Modern heroes would be:1.&nbsp; Ref save or die/take ridiculous amounts of damage2. If make save, then take small but still substantial damage3. Make MDC Fort save.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="S'mon, post: 1769561, member: 463"] "Oh dear, I've been hit by a 120mm HEAT shell... and I'm only 9th level so I only have a 75% chance of making my MDC!" :) This is why I think d20 Modern sucks. Either the hit from this enornous shell was solid, in which case it should be doing vastly more damage (over 100d6), or it just winged/near-missed the hero, in which case the low damage is ok but a Massive Damage Fort save is wholly inappropriate. Nobody, even in Hollywood movies, shrugs off tank shell hits because of toughness! If any kind of Save is appropriate, it would be a Reflex save _before damage is rolled_, to determine whether the hit was full-on or not. If full-on, then realistic damage (or just automatic death) should apply. If not full-on, _then_ some smaller amount of damage becomes appropriate. So a possible workaround for heavy weapons vs d20 Modern heroes would be: 1. Ref save or die/take ridiculous amounts of damage 2. If make save, then take small but still substantial damage 3. Make MDC Fort save. [/QUOTE]

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