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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 1707258" data-attributes="member: 710"><p>The Jem`Hardar ships were approximately the size of the Defiant, maybe a bit bigger. And while the Defiant was small, it could still carry 50 or more crewmen, and can`t be really considered a fighter (at least if we want fighters to have only one pilot and maybe a co-pilot).</p><p>(The crew of DS9 once controlled a Jem`Hardar ship and it required a full bridge crew to operate, and it contained space for several more people)</p><p>Usually in Startrek meant bigger = better. The Defiant is, in some way, a glaring inconsistency. (But I like her anyway, so I am happy to ignore it and pretend to have some good reasons why she had to be the exception)</p><p>As you noted, a Jem Hardar ship had to ram a Galaxy Class ship to destroy it (though I think they could have blown the whole ship by using beam weapons - they were able to ignore the ships shield, after all - a point not to forget in that scene. Later, the federation was able to avoid this problem...)</p><p></p><p>But it is true that the Federation did also use fighter-like craft - these small winged ships (similar to those of the maquis, possibly even the same type) seemed to be fighters. But I always got the impression they really were support craft in space combat. Considering that the Federation even used the 100 years old Mirinda class star ships during the Dominon war seems to indicate that they really used all they had... (In the "retaking of Deep Space Nine" scenes, these ships didn`t seem strong enough...). So that might be the reason why the also used these fighters. They are at least not that useful unless in large numbers. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Sounds reasonable, and sheds in interesting light on fighters in space: </p><p>To want fighters in space, they either must be the best (if not only) choice to attack a ground target (planetary target), or they must be dangerous to much bigger ships. </p><p>I think the first isn`t that unreasonable, depening on the defense systems of planets and the primary types of weapons - if energy weapons don`t have enough range to get from space through the atmosphere to a ground target, you would rely on torpedos/missiles/bombs, that might be easier to intercept then space ships.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 1707258, member: 710"] The Jem`Hardar ships were approximately the size of the Defiant, maybe a bit bigger. And while the Defiant was small, it could still carry 50 or more crewmen, and can`t be really considered a fighter (at least if we want fighters to have only one pilot and maybe a co-pilot). (The crew of DS9 once controlled a Jem`Hardar ship and it required a full bridge crew to operate, and it contained space for several more people) Usually in Startrek meant bigger = better. The Defiant is, in some way, a glaring inconsistency. (But I like her anyway, so I am happy to ignore it and pretend to have some good reasons why she had to be the exception) As you noted, a Jem Hardar ship had to ram a Galaxy Class ship to destroy it (though I think they could have blown the whole ship by using beam weapons - they were able to ignore the ships shield, after all - a point not to forget in that scene. Later, the federation was able to avoid this problem...) But it is true that the Federation did also use fighter-like craft - these small winged ships (similar to those of the maquis, possibly even the same type) seemed to be fighters. But I always got the impression they really were support craft in space combat. Considering that the Federation even used the 100 years old Mirinda class star ships during the Dominon war seems to indicate that they really used all they had... (In the "retaking of Deep Space Nine" scenes, these ships didn`t seem strong enough...). So that might be the reason why the also used these fighters. They are at least not that useful unless in large numbers. Sounds reasonable, and sheds in interesting light on fighters in space: To want fighters in space, they either must be the best (if not only) choice to attack a ground target (planetary target), or they must be dangerous to much bigger ships. I think the first isn`t that unreasonable, depening on the defense systems of planets and the primary types of weapons - if energy weapons don`t have enough range to get from space through the atmosphere to a ground target, you would rely on torpedos/missiles/bombs, that might be easier to intercept then space ships. [/QUOTE]
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