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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aussiegamer" data-source="post: 2039890" data-attributes="member: 19601">if you look at the rules for d20F there are already - to hits and -AC figures for space craft, even with targetting systems added.What is the worry about having -1 AC? It is a short range, no movement, no cover or concealment, no feats such as dodge, no negative attacking feats like burst etc etc etc. These still need to be applied just as size was.It is just the base before all the other factors are applied. So what?OK you end up with -13AC and the opponent has -20 to hit after everything is taken into account, that just means you have a 7 on the d20 to hit.And Ok you end up with -1AC after everything taken into account, so you can't miss. OK so what? (ignoring the nat 1 roll miss factor)Surely the size of the target must be reflected in the AC of the target and the to hit of the attacker. Does it matter if they are both negative, nope! not a bit.Again you are assuming thats why the top out at -8, but show me the rule or FAQ for D&D3.5 or d20 or any major system that says thats why.Why does it matter if you are talking ranged or melee the rules are the same, excpet for rnage to hit mod of course  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> . Again so what if you can't miss except for a nat 1, that's part of the game.You can have a super to hit that basically means you can't miss a positive AC excpet for a nat 1 already in the game.</blockquote>

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