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Message: <blockquote data-quote="buzz" data-source="post: 1459927" data-attributes="member: 6777">"Ease down, you're just grinding metal."--Hicks, AliensWhich (other system) may, after all, be no more appropriate than d20 to the particular game.I think "begun to convince" is inaccurate. That it's usually more profitable to print d20 products is something that was probably obvious from the moment d20 was announced. It also doesn't follow that demand for d20 product equates to a demand for "less diversity." This is zero-sum thinking, and markets don't work that way. The d20 boom has revitalized the hobby as a whole, and there are plenty of other systems seeing boosted sales becuase of this (HERO), or are suppotred by the income generated from their creator's d20 lines (Atlas Games, White Wolf). The success of D&D is directly tied to the success of the industry.Frankly, even if there has been a "diversity decline", I would argue (purely anecdotally) that all we've really lost are a lot of badly-designed near-D&D's. The designers who know what they're doing are still putting out the systems they love. And there's still demand for them. (The aforementioned HERO system has seen a massive resurgence, now selling roughly as much as GURPS books tend to.)(Which points to another anecdotal refutation: I totally love d20, but I also buy everything Hero Games puts out. No demand for "less diversity" here. And I am not alone.)Then I guess we disagree. I think complaining about the influence of d20 is a total waste of time, as I have yet to hear any coherent arguments proving that there's anything to complain about.</blockquote>

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