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<blockquote data-quote="SSquirrel" data-source="post: 1461762" data-attributes="member: 5202"><p>Yeah gaming was pretty dead circa 96 if you weren't buying RIFTS or a White Wolf product it seemed like. I remember how for years the only place I could ever find gaming books was at Waldenbooks in Cincy OH and it would pretty much ONLY have D&D, even tho this was the late 80s and there was TONS of stuff out there.</p><p> </p><p>Heck that list is pretty good and it doesn't even consider lines that have been ongoing for years that aren't releasing a new version like HERO (last year it did) or RIFTS. You constantly see more RIFTS books coming out and who knows when Simbieda will stop the line. Probably never as there is still a LOT of the world to develop. I know Palladium claims RIFTS to be the second biggest line of product after D&D...gamingreport.com may back that up.</p><p> </p><p>I think the pdf market is only going to be getting bigger as time goes on (obviously) and the companies that aren't that succesful with on the shelf products will likely turn to direct pdf and rpgnow style sales and make more money as they have a lot less cost. Prices are cheaper to, but then again you don't have to pay for printing it out either, the user does. If they print it even. Personally, I will only be too glad when companies that have done well selling bad d20 products go away or at least retreat online where people fit into 1 of (usually) 2 models if they are inclined to purchase pdfs at all:</p><p> </p><p>1)Buy lots of pdfs b/c hey its cheap and while some might suck chances are at least a couple will be good. This buyer will also likely remember the folks whose products blew and not buy from them anymore.</p><p> </p><p>2)A bit more cautious, more reaearch will be done and if a review SOMEWHERE can't be found it won't be bought. Some of these purchases will be backups to products they already own (Arcana Unearthed is a good example here) so they always have the basics on, say, their laptop. This user seems like the kind who would not only remember who had a bad product, buy they would make sure to submit a review of it giving it a thumbs down to at least 1 site.</p><p> </p><p>Both users will allow those retreating companies to still make some money in the short term, but obviously user #1 will be spending more money overall. User #2 will be the one who helps make sure that the bad guys go out of business if they can't produce a quality product. This is pretty much as it should be really.</p><p> </p><p>Hagen</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SSquirrel, post: 1461762, member: 5202"] Yeah gaming was pretty dead circa 96 if you weren't buying RIFTS or a White Wolf product it seemed like. I remember how for years the only place I could ever find gaming books was at Waldenbooks in Cincy OH and it would pretty much ONLY have D&D, even tho this was the late 80s and there was TONS of stuff out there. Heck that list is pretty good and it doesn't even consider lines that have been ongoing for years that aren't releasing a new version like HERO (last year it did) or RIFTS. You constantly see more RIFTS books coming out and who knows when Simbieda will stop the line. Probably never as there is still a LOT of the world to develop. I know Palladium claims RIFTS to be the second biggest line of product after D&D...gamingreport.com may back that up. I think the pdf market is only going to be getting bigger as time goes on (obviously) and the companies that aren't that succesful with on the shelf products will likely turn to direct pdf and rpgnow style sales and make more money as they have a lot less cost. Prices are cheaper to, but then again you don't have to pay for printing it out either, the user does. If they print it even. Personally, I will only be too glad when companies that have done well selling bad d20 products go away or at least retreat online where people fit into 1 of (usually) 2 models if they are inclined to purchase pdfs at all: 1)Buy lots of pdfs b/c hey its cheap and while some might suck chances are at least a couple will be good. This buyer will also likely remember the folks whose products blew and not buy from them anymore. 2)A bit more cautious, more reaearch will be done and if a review SOMEWHERE can't be found it won't be bought. Some of these purchases will be backups to products they already own (Arcana Unearthed is a good example here) so they always have the basics on, say, their laptop. This user seems like the kind who would not only remember who had a bad product, buy they would make sure to submit a review of it giving it a thumbs down to at least 1 site. Both users will allow those retreating companies to still make some money in the short term, but obviously user #1 will be spending more money overall. User #2 will be the one who helps make sure that the bad guys go out of business if they can't produce a quality product. This is pretty much as it should be really. Hagen [/QUOTE]
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