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Message: <blockquote data-quote="wingsandsword" data-source="post: 1462526" data-attributes="member: 14159">I really, really doubt that Palladium is the #2 company in the industry, or even the #2 product line (I would imagine that honor would go to Vampire or Star Wars).  The #2 company honor almost certainly goes to White Wolf.  When I go to a mainstream, mass-market bookstore (not just chain stores, but those too), I see WotC books, White Wolf books, and maybe on rare occasion a few books by AEG (Spycraft), or Decipher (Lord of the Rings), but I never, ever see anything by Palladium outside of a FLGS.Palladium keeps churning out books, but their obviously cheap production values (crappy art, poor layout, lousy binding) keeps costs down, and their relatively small distribution means they can probably have small print runs.  Quantity of books produced made does not make a game company prosperous.  WEG's d6 Star Wars & AEG's Dead Lands are examples of small gaming companies with prolific and successful output of books, but that didn't make them big-time. Now, Palladium is a iconic example of Company-scale Irrational d20 Hatred.  They have been hostile and condescending to any fan requests for a d20/OGL version of their product (even a dual-statting).  I remember seeing one Sembieda rant where he said that d20 would be just a "flash in the pan" and he predicted it would ruin WotC and the rest of the industry would collapse leaving them as the most popular and dominant game company.  Hogwash.  (I could rant about how outdated, inflexible, horribly balanced & incomprehensible the Palladium system is, but I'm sure there are lots of rants like that on the net and they could revitalize their business with an OGL/d20 sideline: insert one here).  Their d20 Hatred reaches so deep they've sent Cease & Desist's to some of their most dedicated fans for merely belonging to a mailing list discussing d20 conversions of their products (which lead to a few fans becoming ex-fans and refusing to buy further products from them).  Of course, all this lead to was starting another list and discussing the same things, but changing the names around and making a "generic" Post-Apocalyptic Psionic/Magic/Sci-Fi d20 setting (which they promptly insert back all the Rifts references off-list at home).Just about every other gaming company has dabbled it's feet in the d20/OGL water at some time, including those with their own well-known house systems.  White Wolf's got it's Sword & Sorcery label, SJG did the Munchin's Guides, AEG's got Spycraft.</blockquote>

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