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<blockquote data-quote="SSquirrel" data-source="post: 1464727" data-attributes="member: 5202"><p>See I tend to look at RPGs in this sense...1)Setting, 2)Mechanics, everything else after. I can deal with wonky systems (Palaldium) to have a cool setting (RIFTS). I can also freely scrap some settings that are reasonably cool (Aberrant) and just make my own world using its system (Storyteller Supers). These 2 tend to flip flop for me. Like I said before, sometimes I'm just looking for a cool setting to place on top of an existing system I plan on using, especially if the other system doesn't look as nifty as what I want to use. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Big AU fan myself and I'd been following it since the design diaries and got it right after GenCon. My bud was gonna bring me back a copy as he was working the WW booth, but Monte sold out TWICE during GenCon heh. I got it like a week later. I'll peek at those lines from FFG...Grimm/Virtual/Redline also FFG stuff?</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>See I run into problems where I have to convince people to play settings and systems and its much easier to convince them on a system they already know. OtE looked interesting, but Everway I never really liked. Same with HERO and GURPS...crap for my needs. It doesn't help that I've never really considered myself a good long term GM either so if I really want to play certain systems I'm gonna have to run them, which isn't exactly what I want either *grin*.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>It is that simple. People will see gaming stuff in Barnes and Noble and in Hobby Corner (model trains and such mostly but they've ALWAYS had about the best selection in town for RPGs too....odd I know) or get exposed to it by friends that already play. Not having an existing focused game store I don't expect a lot of expansion of the gaming world. Gaming has almost ALWAYS been something you don't really find until you have reason to look for it. Once someone starts playing D&D, they might do a few web searches...next thing you know they're here and they find out about RPGNow. PDf sales are fine for the hobby. The material is getting OUT there and allowing the company to build up a presence and maybe eventually make the switch over to on the shelf. </p><p> </p><p>Think about it this way. If someone wants to start a business and they start out online where there is much less investment needed, if it all goes down the tubes for them, they aren't out as much. If they actually get things pressed and distributed and such, they're out a lot more money in comparison. The people in the hobby are picking up quite quickly on pdf sales and I think in a few years we'll see a few new companies regularly in stores that started life as pdf sales only. Which is FABULOUS. Also you have people like Monte Cook who sell pdfs early and then publish hardback later which suits both audiences. personally I would prefer simultaneous release but hey I prefer real copies to pdfs *grin*</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Actually our group was pretty burned on Rolemaster just before 3E came out. We'd been playing nothing but it for like 3 years solid. We burned out on D&D after no variety for 2 1/2 years. We all had other things that I think would have been interesting to play as well, but our campaign would get delayed on a regular basis as it was and we can only game every other weekend so mixing it up hasn't always been the easiest consideration for our group. I'm gonna be atending the Iowa City meetup on the 10th tho so maybe I'll find some new players and even new groups to game with.</p><p> </p><p>Hagen</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SSquirrel, post: 1464727, member: 5202"] See I tend to look at RPGs in this sense...1)Setting, 2)Mechanics, everything else after. I can deal with wonky systems (Palaldium) to have a cool setting (RIFTS). I can also freely scrap some settings that are reasonably cool (Aberrant) and just make my own world using its system (Storyteller Supers). These 2 tend to flip flop for me. Like I said before, sometimes I'm just looking for a cool setting to place on top of an existing system I plan on using, especially if the other system doesn't look as nifty as what I want to use. Big AU fan myself and I'd been following it since the design diaries and got it right after GenCon. My bud was gonna bring me back a copy as he was working the WW booth, but Monte sold out TWICE during GenCon heh. I got it like a week later. I'll peek at those lines from FFG...Grimm/Virtual/Redline also FFG stuff? See I run into problems where I have to convince people to play settings and systems and its much easier to convince them on a system they already know. OtE looked interesting, but Everway I never really liked. Same with HERO and GURPS...crap for my needs. It doesn't help that I've never really considered myself a good long term GM either so if I really want to play certain systems I'm gonna have to run them, which isn't exactly what I want either *grin*. It is that simple. People will see gaming stuff in Barnes and Noble and in Hobby Corner (model trains and such mostly but they've ALWAYS had about the best selection in town for RPGs too....odd I know) or get exposed to it by friends that already play. Not having an existing focused game store I don't expect a lot of expansion of the gaming world. Gaming has almost ALWAYS been something you don't really find until you have reason to look for it. Once someone starts playing D&D, they might do a few web searches...next thing you know they're here and they find out about RPGNow. PDf sales are fine for the hobby. The material is getting OUT there and allowing the company to build up a presence and maybe eventually make the switch over to on the shelf. Think about it this way. If someone wants to start a business and they start out online where there is much less investment needed, if it all goes down the tubes for them, they aren't out as much. If they actually get things pressed and distributed and such, they're out a lot more money in comparison. The people in the hobby are picking up quite quickly on pdf sales and I think in a few years we'll see a few new companies regularly in stores that started life as pdf sales only. Which is FABULOUS. Also you have people like Monte Cook who sell pdfs early and then publish hardback later which suits both audiences. personally I would prefer simultaneous release but hey I prefer real copies to pdfs *grin* Actually our group was pretty burned on Rolemaster just before 3E came out. We'd been playing nothing but it for like 3 years solid. We burned out on D&D after no variety for 2 1/2 years. We all had other things that I think would have been interesting to play as well, but our campaign would get delayed on a regular basis as it was and we can only game every other weekend so mixing it up hasn't always been the easiest consideration for our group. I'm gonna be atending the Iowa City meetup on the 10th tho so maybe I'll find some new players and even new groups to game with. Hagen [/QUOTE]
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