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<blockquote data-quote="Margaiaman" data-source="post: 236985" data-attributes="member: 2134">Actually you were spot on.&nbsp; Yes, the save progressions look very odd to my eye.&nbsp; I'm only familiar with three types, a 'good' save (2+1/2 level round down), a 'poor' save (0+1/3 level round down), and an 'ok' save (which follows something a little more complexe.&nbsp; +1 +2 +2 +2 +3 +3 +4 +4 +4 +5 +5 +6 +6 +6 +7 +7 +8 +8 +8 +9) (The 'ok' progression I have only seen in the Wheel of Time book from Wizard's of the Coast)Those three I am familiar with and make sense to me.&nbsp; However, in Paragon I have found many of the classes don't seem to follow these three save progression patterns.&nbsp; Since you mention the warrior I'll look to it as an example.Only the warrior's will save can fit in one of the three above categories.&nbsp; Its fortitude save is a variation of the good save, and I'm not sure how the reflex save came about.As I mentioned in my post and you have answered in yours, I'm sure there are reasons like balance and what not.&nbsp; It just took me aback that the progressions were so different from those in any published book that I have seen.&nbsp; (I haven't yet looked at Spycraft, are there really some so different in that book?)I'm certainly not saying that I dislike the save progressions you have placed in the classes.&nbsp; I just found it odd that they were in that fashion given what I have seen in published works.&nbsp; All of my doubts will melt away in actual play I am sure.&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown&nbsp; &nbsp; :("&nbsp; data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" />&nbsp;&nbsp; Unfortunatly I don't know if I'll ever be able to play the game.&nbsp; So until then I'll look it over and keep dreaming about all the heroes I could be playing, or the stories I could run with this system.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Margaiaman, post: 236985, member: 2134"] Actually you were spot on. Yes, the save progressions look very odd to my eye. I'm only familiar with three types, a 'good' save (2+1/2 level round down), a 'poor' save (0+1/3 level round down), and an 'ok' save (which follows something a little more complexe. +1 +2 +2 +2 +3 +3 +4 +4 +4 +5 +5 +6 +6 +6 +7 +7 +8 +8 +8 +9) (The 'ok' progression I have only seen in the Wheel of Time book from Wizard's of the Coast) Those three I am familiar with and make sense to me. However, in Paragon I have found many of the classes don't seem to follow these three save progression patterns. Since you mention the warrior I'll look to it as an example. Only the warrior's will save can fit in one of the three above categories. Its fortitude save is a variation of the good save, and I'm not sure how the reflex save came about. As I mentioned in my post and you have answered in yours, I'm sure there are reasons like balance and what not. It just took me aback that the progressions were so different from those in any published book that I have seen. (I haven't yet looked at Spycraft, are there really some so different in that book?) I'm certainly not saying that I dislike the save progressions you have placed in the classes. I just found it odd that they were in that fashion given what I have seen in published works. All of my doubts will melt away in actual play I am sure. :( Unfortunatly I don't know if I'll ever be able to play the game. So until then I'll look it over and keep dreaming about all the heroes I could be playing, or the stories I could run with this system. [/QUOTE]

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