d20 mecha questions

Imhotepthewise

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I'm just a little confused. Here is the feat from the SRD:
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Giant Robot Fighting
You are proficient in the fine control of a giant humanoid fighting machine. If you are piloting a mecha suit, or a giant robot that has the same general limb configuration as your own body (if a human, that means two arms and two legs), you may use certain Feats with it.
Prerequisite: Giant Robot Dodge, Driving or Pilot 6+ Ranks
Benefit: If you know any of the Feats detailed in the Giant Robot Fighting Feats Table (below), you may apply them to your mecha as if it was the character. Moreover, those Feats that require a Strength prerequisite may be learned even if you lack sufficient Strength, but only used when you are piloting your giant robot (provided your robot has sufficient Strength). If you later increase your Strength, you can use them on your own.
Normal: You may not use the Feats below while in a giant robot if you lack this Feat. You may not use them at all while in a vehicle. You are not restricted from using them while in a suit.
Special: The Endurance, Run, and Stunning Fist Feats cannot be used by a giant robot. Bull Rush, Improved Bull Rush, and Improved Unarmed Strike Feats are unneeded, since mecha attacks do not count as "unarmed."
Table 1-3: Giant Robot Fighting Feats
Ambidexterity Blind-Fight Cleave
Dodge Expertise Great Cleave
Improved Critical Improved Disarm Improved Initiative
Improved Trip Improved Two-Weapon Fighting Mobility
Power Attack Quick Draw Shot on the Run
Spring Attack Sunder Two-Weapon Fighting
Whirlwind Attack
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Now, for the questions:

1. Why is Dodge on the list when you have to have Giant Robot Dodge to get this feat anyway?

2. What's with Bull Rush and Improved Bull Rush? Giant Robot Mecha ought to be able to do a Bull Rush and take Improved Bull Rush as a feat. I didn't think making a Bull Rush was any different whether you were considered armed or not.

I have not received my print copy, but these may be easy questions for our most learned assembly.
 

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Imhotepthewise said:
1. Why is Dodge on the list when you have to have Giant Robot Dodge to get this feat anyway?
Because it allows you to stack benefits from both Dodge and Giant Robot Dodge to your mecha.


Imhotepthewise said:
2. What's with Bull Rush and Improved Bull Rush? Giant Robot Mecha ought to be able to do a Bull Rush and take Improved Bull Rush as a feat. I didn't think making a Bull Rush was any different whether you were considered armed or not.
As you have quoted, Bull Rush and Improved Bull Rush are unarmed attacks that does only character-scale subdual/nonlethal damage. Trust me, a mecha's fist will do normal/lethal damage.

Use the Ramming and Collision rules in the Mecha Combat chapter to emulate a Mecha-scale Bull Rush.
 


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