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<blockquote data-quote="TheGrandNuge" data-source="post: 5184904" data-attributes="member: 84075"><p>Ok, got ya on the BAB. But the unarmed still, compared to the Brawl d6 is weak. Like I said, most enemies last one encounter. So subdual compared to actual is not much an issue. The brawler draws AoO, but gets a +1 to hit that the martial artist does not, and honestly better feats with Knockout Punch and Improved KOpunch, Streetfighting, and Improved Brawl. </p><p></p><p>Martial Artist gets Imp. Combat MA.</p><p></p><p>Both can take Combat MA and combat throw, since there is no "Combat Martial Arts" requirement. At least not on the SRD.</p><p></p><p>Now, the Brawler can not make AoO. This may be a biggie since enemies can stand right next to him and shoot with no ill effect, but might (might) not do that to the Combat Martial Artist. But with the crappy bast damage he has til high levels, they might not care. I think I'd rather do 2d6 with a gun and maybe get hit for a d4 or d6 than pull a d4 dagger out or something to fight the monk with.</p><p>Am I missing something here?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheGrandNuge, post: 5184904, member: 84075"] Ok, got ya on the BAB. But the unarmed still, compared to the Brawl d6 is weak. Like I said, most enemies last one encounter. So subdual compared to actual is not much an issue. The brawler draws AoO, but gets a +1 to hit that the martial artist does not, and honestly better feats with Knockout Punch and Improved KOpunch, Streetfighting, and Improved Brawl. Martial Artist gets Imp. Combat MA. Both can take Combat MA and combat throw, since there is no "Combat Martial Arts" requirement. At least not on the SRD. Now, the Brawler can not make AoO. This may be a biggie since enemies can stand right next to him and shoot with no ill effect, but might (might) not do that to the Combat Martial Artist. But with the crappy bast damage he has til high levels, they might not care. I think I'd rather do 2d6 with a gun and maybe get hit for a d4 or d6 than pull a d4 dagger out or something to fight the monk with. Am I missing something here? [/QUOTE]
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