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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tameszu" data-source="post: 1950331" data-attributes="member: 16874">I play Sense Motive so that it's not plot breaker. The information that a garden variety success gives you with a Sense Motive check gives you isn't "the person lied." It's more like, "I think they are hiding something."But if you're in a spy context, you can be pretty sure that other people are hiding something all of the time, so the utility of a normal success with a Sense Motive check, even when directed at specific and crucial statements, is a bit limited.Also, I totally agree that if you want to model classes off of what Syd can do, you should consider (i) she would be pretty high level; and (ii) she would have amazing stats because of Project Christmas. (Random interesting connection--her stats might arguably be amazing in the same way as Alias' from Curse of the Azure Bonds...all 17s  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /> )I'd probably go with making her class a PrC--and I agree that the Base Class-->Advanced Class model might be a good one.</blockquote>