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<blockquote data-quote="HeapThaumaturgist" data-source="post: 2855712" data-attributes="member: 12332"><p>It's nothing new, the Shadow thing.</p><p></p><p>Buffyverse HAS to have it. Jeez. Every fifteen minutes some demon or vampire or vampire-demon is opening a portal to hell or another hell or another dimension or a hell-dimension and the world will be destroyed/remade in its image/consumed.</p><p></p><p>And yet vampire-demons aren't on the evening news. And the monsters all seems to just boil away off screen.</p><p></p><p>Not "only the PCs" can see Shadow in UrA. IIRC, isn't there a racist hate-group made up of humans that strikes against the Shadow creatures? The MAJORITY of people ignore things ...</p><p></p><p>Heck, the concept is in the WhiteWolf games! In the original Mage (haven't looked at the new one), the reason the Technocracy's brand of magic works is people can believe in "science". Mages have to watch what they throw so that people are able to rationalize it away, and if you don't you get eaten by Paradox.</p><p></p><p>It's just ... not new. Not really all that special to Urban Arcana.</p><p></p><p>I could run a whole Urban Arcana adventure centering on, I dunno, some historian that gets his hands on a spell book and starts raising the dead with an Incantation. Or Vampires. </p><p></p><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> Those are my bag, anyway. </p><p></p><p>Or maybe some Druids in the woods somewhere raising hell with man's encroachment on nature. Or reports of a dragon that turn out to be an illusionist (human, self-taught). </p><p></p><p>It turns into a Takasi-level chicken-and-egg cycle though. Does an Urban Arcana adventure have to have Shadow creatures? No. Is it an Urban Arcana adventure if it doesn't have anything to do with Shadow? No. </p><p></p><p>You can certainly do other things ... but why? And why is that really a BAD thing? </p><p></p><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I didn't like the whole Sasquatch angle in Dark*Matter. It never came up. Ever. In any of the games I ran. White Section came up, but usually only in whispers and frantic phone calls. The Greys only came up once.</p><p></p><p>--fje</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HeapThaumaturgist, post: 2855712, member: 12332"] It's nothing new, the Shadow thing. Buffyverse HAS to have it. Jeez. Every fifteen minutes some demon or vampire or vampire-demon is opening a portal to hell or another hell or another dimension or a hell-dimension and the world will be destroyed/remade in its image/consumed. And yet vampire-demons aren't on the evening news. And the monsters all seems to just boil away off screen. Not "only the PCs" can see Shadow in UrA. IIRC, isn't there a racist hate-group made up of humans that strikes against the Shadow creatures? The MAJORITY of people ignore things ... Heck, the concept is in the WhiteWolf games! In the original Mage (haven't looked at the new one), the reason the Technocracy's brand of magic works is people can believe in "science". Mages have to watch what they throw so that people are able to rationalize it away, and if you don't you get eaten by Paradox. It's just ... not new. Not really all that special to Urban Arcana. I could run a whole Urban Arcana adventure centering on, I dunno, some historian that gets his hands on a spell book and starts raising the dead with an Incantation. Or Vampires. ;) Those are my bag, anyway. Or maybe some Druids in the woods somewhere raising hell with man's encroachment on nature. Or reports of a dragon that turn out to be an illusionist (human, self-taught). It turns into a Takasi-level chicken-and-egg cycle though. Does an Urban Arcana adventure have to have Shadow creatures? No. Is it an Urban Arcana adventure if it doesn't have anything to do with Shadow? No. You can certainly do other things ... but why? And why is that really a BAD thing? :) I didn't like the whole Sasquatch angle in Dark*Matter. It never came up. Ever. In any of the games I ran. White Section came up, but usually only in whispers and frantic phone calls. The Greys only came up once. --fje [/QUOTE]
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