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d20 modern Failed...why? (or did it?)
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<blockquote data-quote="Loonook" data-source="post: 4688085" data-attributes="member: 1861"><p>The issue with Modern really comes from lack of imagination and sloppy writeups. It is still one of my favorite sandboxes, and I can make up almost any game for it. That being said... the settings written up for Modern pretty much sucked. Modern lent itself to a simple microsetting vibe; the 'core FX' classes really were a great introduction to that vibe (even though they needed adjustments... the ability to stun any Shadow-based creature... wow...).</p><p></p><p>Then came Urban Arcana... one of the worst setting books in the history of bad setting books. It created Greyhawk: 1999, and it really didn't have any pizazz behind it beyond simple stuff (oh my gods! Imagine a BURGER KING WHERE EVERYONE IS SHADOWKIND!!?!?!)</p><p></p><p>Dark*Matter? Essentially a cheap rehash quick-cash scheme... Past was a joke, Future is hilarious (for good and ill) in some of its chapters.</p><p></p><p>Just a lot of sloppy writing killed Modern. A great sandbox, but it seems WotC could only pick out the undesirable clumps and slap on a price tag.</p><p></p><p>Of course, I picked up all my Modern materials for less than 20 bucks (thank you, cheapies on Amazon) so I don't feel TOO ripped off by the system <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />.</p><p></p><p>Slainte,</p><p></p><p>-Loonook.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Loonook, post: 4688085, member: 1861"] The issue with Modern really comes from lack of imagination and sloppy writeups. It is still one of my favorite sandboxes, and I can make up almost any game for it. That being said... the settings written up for Modern pretty much sucked. Modern lent itself to a simple microsetting vibe; the 'core FX' classes really were a great introduction to that vibe (even though they needed adjustments... the ability to stun any Shadow-based creature... wow...). Then came Urban Arcana... one of the worst setting books in the history of bad setting books. It created Greyhawk: 1999, and it really didn't have any pizazz behind it beyond simple stuff (oh my gods! Imagine a BURGER KING WHERE EVERYONE IS SHADOWKIND!!?!?!) Dark*Matter? Essentially a cheap rehash quick-cash scheme... Past was a joke, Future is hilarious (for good and ill) in some of its chapters. Just a lot of sloppy writing killed Modern. A great sandbox, but it seems WotC could only pick out the undesirable clumps and slap on a price tag. Of course, I picked up all my Modern materials for less than 20 bucks (thank you, cheapies on Amazon) so I don't feel TOO ripped off by the system ;). Slainte, -Loonook. [/QUOTE]
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