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Message: <blockquote data-quote="HellHound" data-source="post: 988864" data-attributes="member: 3397">I own both Haven: city of violence and d20 Modern.I admire the work that has gone into Haven, the art and layout is VERY impressive and the work that has gone into it shows.On the other hand, I get fed up with Mr Porter's advertising methods, constantly seeming to be on the attack against the d20 market, whereas he also sells to the d20 market in the form of actual d20 modules as well as his marketing the 'modern day maps' PDFs directly at the d20 modern crowd.</blockquote>