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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Voneth" data-source="post: 423672" data-attributes="member: 1016">Because if I don't want magic in my setting (which does 4000 in DND), I need psionics to pick up the work load. With "4000" to pick from, I think I'll find the right thing for the right goal.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> My only beef with AEG's psionic rules is more the product delivery, it is a third tier product. i.e. PHB, Spycraft, and then Series Archer. The acutal rules please me, even if I HAVE to use action dice to make the higher rules work.On equal treatment:Okay, I try to explain my position again. 1.) d20 Modern is supposed to be a system that supports Fantasy and SF genres.2.) The two DND versions of the system are not inherently built for them to have equal footing with each other. The 55 powers is a perfect example.Cleric, Sor, or Wiz, have one attribute to base their powers on. So all 55 powers are available for a choice.For Psions,  they have powers based off all 6 attributes. Between that and their psi points, they become one-trick ponies, especialy when all of their power have fixed damage dice (none of the powers scale with the level of a psion like fireball does for a wizard.)3.) As written, DND Psioics is an optional systemPsions were developed to not overshadow Wizards in anyway, and Psionics in the PsiHB doesn't stand well on it's own without magic (no healing, no fireball damages)------So in essence, it seems a little contradicting to say that psionics gets equal treatment when it's not very modified from the DND model.Their solution so far is to only offer one class, the Telepath. So we get a whole setting (Agent of Psi) and only one class that is psionic? All I can say is that I hope that Urban Arcana and Shadow Chasers also get only one class each. And if that is the case, it sounds like the whole setting section is really just a paid advertisment/teaser for the setting books. bah! give me more psionic AND magic powers instead. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />   Yeah, funny thing is I said that.</blockquote>

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