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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 2843916" data-attributes="member: 158">With due respect, I can see his point: You can't do it the way you can in Spycraft. The classes , feats, origins and talents give certain features that Modern 1st level characters can't have without added material and edits. For instance, a 1st level modern soldier will be probably a strong or fast hero, probably point blank and far shot, a d8 for hit dice, and maybe melee smash or extra speed as a talent, and that's about it in the way of mechanical features that make him what he is.A 1st level Spycraft 2.0 Soldier might start as a Daring Spec Ops (giving him +2 to Dex, -2 to INT, a bonus to init rolls AND action dice, a bonus covert feat, skills with Explosives and Tactics), and then he gets a feat to pick from, plus the bonus feat from Soldier, I believe he gets some boost from wearing armor above what any other character class gets, and plus another bonus to init. The feats themselves often offer better than what a corresponding Modern feat would (the first one that jumps to my mind are the iron will, great fort and lightning reflexes feats: they offer a +3 in the save and PLUS another ability on top!) Note I'm ignoring the role-playing aspect for a moment, because it kind of cancels out: ANYONE can role-play being a first level spec-op, with the DM's assistance; I'm just making the point that the 1st level Spycraft PC is slightly more capable than the 1st level modern character, because the feats, abilities, skills, etc. are "over the top" compared to their Modern counterparts. In fact, some classes (the Snoop, the Hacker, the Scout come to mind) have a special ability: They CANNOT FAIL in their main skill (computers for hacking, survival for scouts, etc.) if the DC is 20 + their level. You ever get frustrated that your ranger who's supposed to be good at tracking just flubbed with a "3" on his die roll? Well, not in Spycraft 2: Your characters are capable. Even in a failed roll (except for natural "1") you still achieve the minimum possible success.Wish I had the book for a full comparison, but it's at home.</blockquote>

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