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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MoogleEmpMog" data-source="post: 2844060" data-attributes="member: 22882">In SpyCraft, you start as a SpecOp at 1st level because level is a completely abstract concept.  You can be a 40-year-old veteran agent who has seen it all and done it all... and is still 1st level.  Level is simply a way to give the players new gimmicks to play around with and the antagonists new ways to foil those gimmicks.  James Bond or Solid Snake can be first level characters and still be as relatively competent as they are in their respective sources.In d20 Modern, you can't start as a SpecOp because being 1st level means you're a rookie.  d20 Modern assumes that a typical ordinary is anywhere from 2nd to 10th level and gains XP as he ages.  An average soldier may well be 5th or 6th level, and with the distribution of Heroic vs. Ordinary characters in the d20 Modern core book, most soldiers will probably be Heroic characters in a well-trained modern army.  A veteran secret agent would be in the 7+ level range, going as high as 15-20 for a James Bond or a Solid Snake.SpyCraft's setting is (somewhat) more powerful... but it's mostly just a paradigm for looking at levels.</blockquote>