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<blockquote data-quote="Vigilance" data-source="post: 2980232" data-attributes="member: 4275">Except if you assume the average military recruit is 2nd to 3rd level (and if you look in the core rules or the menace manual you'll see that's accurate), then having a SEAL be 10th level makes perfect sense.It's just a question of what you want out of the game.Starting a group of PCs as Navy SEALs is fine, I've done it, but you start them at about 8th level (that's what I did when I ran that campaign).This is the equivalent of starting the PCs off in an epic campaign as heroes, like Aragorn, Gimli, Legolas etc.At the start of the books, those characters have already had tons of adventures we don't get to see, they're already heroes.If you want to play a MILITARY campaign, then you can start at 1st level, your characters just won't be the best of the best. I don't think this is a problem with d20 Modern personally, just your expectations of it. You want GURPs, where characters start out at a very high level of proficiency, when what you're playing is a level system, where characters start out closer to Xander Harris.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Vigilance, post: 2980232, member: 4275"] Except if you assume the average military recruit is 2nd to 3rd level (and if you look in the core rules or the menace manual you'll see that's accurate), then having a SEAL be 10th level makes perfect sense. It's just a question of what you want out of the game. Starting a group of PCs as Navy SEALs is fine, I've done it, but you start them at about 8th level (that's what I did when I ran that campaign). This is the equivalent of starting the PCs off in an epic campaign as heroes, like Aragorn, Gimli, Legolas etc. At the start of the books, those characters have already had tons of adventures we don't get to see, they're already heroes. If you want to play a MILITARY campaign, then you can start at 1st level, your characters just won't be the best of the best. I don't think this is a problem with d20 Modern personally, just your expectations of it. You want GURPs, where characters start out at a very high level of proficiency, when what you're playing is a level system, where characters start out closer to Xander Harris. [/QUOTE]

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