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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 5340724" data-attributes="member: 710">4efiy it is always my answer here. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />But go further then 4E. Find the non-combat roles and make them a fundamental part of the game.D20 Modern had a strong concept I liked in theory but in practice fell flat - that you multiclass more. I particularly like the idea of multiclassing a "physical" class (Strong, Fast, Tough) with one mental class (Smart, Dedicated, Charismatic) to define the style of a character - you have a "combat" side and a "non-combat "side you can flesh out this way.I would see a 4Eized d20 Modern 2.0 have a character mix & match a combat role with a non-combat role. Possible Combat Roles: Defender, Striker, Leader (I ignore Controller for a modern system with lots of firearms - some defenders will be melee brutes and fit the 4E D&D Defender, some will use ranged weapons and fit the Controller)Possible Non-Combat Roles: Face, Guide, Sage, Techie. A guy to talk, a guy getting you where you need to be (so Drivers, Pilots, Rangers all can apply), a guy that knows stuff, and a guy that builds stuff.Combat Powers and non-combat powers would work similar but more clearly distinguished as it is in D&D 4. (Utility Powers serve both combat and non-combat purposes and I just see this as a flawed desin in D&D4).I could see d20 Modern 2.0 be a little more equipment-centric in some ways. Your combat role might not necessiarly give you direct powers, but instead it might affect powers given by a weapon.Semi-Automatic Pistol: Double Tap (Encounter) - Ranged WeaponAttack: Dexterity vs ACTarget: 1 CreatureHit: 2 [W] + Dex damage.Hit (Striker): 3 [W] +Dex damage.Hit (Defender): Target is marked until the end of your next turn. Hit (Leader): Target suffers a -2 penalty to AC and Reflex defense.Assault Rifle : Full Burst (Act) - Area Burst 1 in Weapon RangeDefender: Area Burst 2 in Weapon RangeAttack: Dexterity vs ACTarget: All creatures in burst.Hit: 2 [W] + Dex damage.Hit (Defender): Slide target 2 squares.Hit (Striker): 3 [W] + Dex damage.Hit (Leader): Target is knocked prone.Miss: Half damage.Effect (Defender): Target is marked until the end of your next turn.</blockquote>

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