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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Razjah" data-source="post: 6036127" data-attributes="member: 98806">I agree. I also think the 25 point buy for PCs is jank. To have a one stat at 17 and hurts the characters points so much that you are left with 8s and maybe one salvageable stat. I don't think Tony Stark would be an 12th level Artificer, but I see the argument. Especially considering I messed up the stats for Stark and boosted his INT at levels 4 and 6. I think he could be maybe level 8. In a supers game, Hawkeye and Black Widow are not super powerful. Compared to the rest they are low level. I think you can stat out Tony at level 8 reasonably, but Natalia and Clinton are probably level 5. Captain America would be level 8-10. Thor would be closer to 10-12. Hulk, I quit. Banner is a 4th level expert. Hulk is a plot powered beast with uncapped stat gain tied to his stats. Based on what I aw reading through the Modern SRD, I couldn't build any of the Avengers. Hawkeye and Black Widow can be approximated, but you will never get his shooting ability or enough skills to cover her interrogation abilities. I could ballpark Stark and his checks needed to make the suit- not the suit. Captain America is superhuman, and needs more points and special equipment. Thor is a freaking god, needs more points and special equipment and some magic ability. This game doesn't cover Hulk well enough. I think start with tough hero, and rage ability.</blockquote>