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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SteveC" data-source="post: 2637933" data-attributes="member: 9053">Blood and Fists uses the talents and feats system to make a martial arts character. Martial Arts Mayhem uses the system from Oriental Adventures where you get X, Y and Z feat + a and b skills and get a bonus.I really like the way blood and fists does things better, since I think it uses the D20 Modern system of talent trees for it's approach. I'd say that Blood and Fists is also a much more "crunchy" approach, which not everyone will like. For example, as you pick (or design) your martial arts style, you pick things like punches, kicks and grapple as the favored part of the "art" so you don't get the same blanket immunities. In my campaign, there was a character who practiced panther martial arts, which were based around leaps, charges and kicks. This was entirely different from the boxer who was all punch and grab.Hopefully that will make some sense, but if it doesn't check out the reviews of both books, psion did an excellent review that explains the options better than I could...--Steve</blockquote>