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<blockquote data-quote="The Sigil" data-source="post: 852531" data-attributes="member: 2013"><p>Here we differ.</p><p></p><p>IMO, the problem with saying, "only certain people get to use this" is that it creates an "elite club." As in, one that is seen as elitist by others.</p><p></p><p>Remember all the uproar about WotC's decision to make the 3.5e revisions accessible only to companies that have published a print product or had former WotC R&D people on staff? WotC made a dividing line and people didn't like it.</p><p></p><p>As I see it, you really can't make a dividing line easily... it has to be "for nobody" or "for everybody."</p><p></p><p>The line might be: "You published 5 products last year."</p><p></p><p>Someone comes along and says, "Well, what about me? I started up in June and published four products... that prorates to five!"</p><p></p><p>Someone else comes along and says, "Well what about me? Four is close to five and three is close to four..."</p><p></p><p>So eventually you get to "one print product." Does a POD of a PDF at RPGNow count? If so, why not a solely PDF product? Who determines who is and isn't a "Real" d20 company? You just can't do it ethically IMO.</p><p></p><p>That means anything like this would need to be done in one of two ways:</p><p></p><p>1.) Only those who have contributed to the pool can use it. That means even the smallest contribution - 1 spell - is enough to get you in. An "entry fee" if you will.</p><p></p><p>2.) Anyone can use it, even without an "entry fee."</p><p></p><p>Given the spirit of the Open Game License, I would prefer to see #2.</p><p></p><p>That's why I suggested a webpage-type thingy instead of a PDF. Because ultimately, it's going to happen - give someone a PDF and I guarantee you, a copy will eventually get out on Kazaa or Grokster or whatever and from there onto the net at large... especially since there's no legal recourse to stop someone from distributing OGC if they do it correctly - and remember, the OGL prohibits putting any other conditions on the distribution of OGC, so you can't "lock down the content" on the CD tighter to keep it from happening.</p><p></p><p>I'm being a realist here. If an OGC compilation is put together, it will get out on the web. What I'm trying to do is let d20 companies dictate the terms in which it goes out onto the web while they still can. If they wait until after it's out there, it will be far too late (see: RIAA/MPAA and Napster/Kazaa/P2P in general).</p><p></p><p>--The Sigil</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Sigil, post: 852531, member: 2013"] Here we differ. IMO, the problem with saying, "only certain people get to use this" is that it creates an "elite club." As in, one that is seen as elitist by others. Remember all the uproar about WotC's decision to make the 3.5e revisions accessible only to companies that have published a print product or had former WotC R&D people on staff? WotC made a dividing line and people didn't like it. As I see it, you really can't make a dividing line easily... it has to be "for nobody" or "for everybody." The line might be: "You published 5 products last year." Someone comes along and says, "Well, what about me? I started up in June and published four products... that prorates to five!" Someone else comes along and says, "Well what about me? Four is close to five and three is close to four..." So eventually you get to "one print product." Does a POD of a PDF at RPGNow count? If so, why not a solely PDF product? Who determines who is and isn't a "Real" d20 company? You just can't do it ethically IMO. That means anything like this would need to be done in one of two ways: 1.) Only those who have contributed to the pool can use it. That means even the smallest contribution - 1 spell - is enough to get you in. An "entry fee" if you will. 2.) Anyone can use it, even without an "entry fee." Given the spirit of the Open Game License, I would prefer to see #2. That's why I suggested a webpage-type thingy instead of a PDF. Because ultimately, it's going to happen - give someone a PDF and I guarantee you, a copy will eventually get out on Kazaa or Grokster or whatever and from there onto the net at large... especially since there's no legal recourse to stop someone from distributing OGC if they do it correctly - and remember, the OGL prohibits putting any other conditions on the distribution of OGC, so you can't "lock down the content" on the CD tighter to keep it from happening. I'm being a realist here. If an OGC compilation is put together, it will get out on the web. What I'm trying to do is let d20 companies dictate the terms in which it goes out onto the web while they still can. If they wait until after it's out there, it will be far too late (see: RIAA/MPAA and Napster/Kazaa/P2P in general). --The Sigil [/QUOTE]
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