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<blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 1504769" data-attributes="member: 172"><p>I do play other games on occasion, but I feel the burden is on the non-20 games here, not the d20 games, to show some quality that makes it worthwhile. Why? I know d20 and my players know d20. Learning a new systems, going through the mistakes and less-than-optimal play that occurs when you are just learning a system, and so forth, are time invested that I would rather be doing quality gaming. These days I only have one 4-6 hour block a week to spend with my players, and if I am going to be squandering one or more of those learning a new system, there had better be a good reason.</p><p></p><p>In some of your listed games, I can see the point. I don't feel d20 is especially well suited to supers play, and would rather use HERO or DC Heroes for those. But of others you are listed, I gotta say I actively prefer d20, even if my players knew the system. d6 WEG and Shadowrun and WoD Storyteller (and moce dice pool style systems, for that matter) I really dislike.</p><p></p><p>CoC is an unusual case. I've played it for years, but really feel the skill system is outdated, but I still think chargen is better than the d20 version. I think if I had a hankering to run Cthulhu mythos, I'd use the d20 version, but yank out the chargen and use a toned down version of d20 modern instead.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Psion, post: 1504769, member: 172"] I do play other games on occasion, but I feel the burden is on the non-20 games here, not the d20 games, to show some quality that makes it worthwhile. Why? I know d20 and my players know d20. Learning a new systems, going through the mistakes and less-than-optimal play that occurs when you are just learning a system, and so forth, are time invested that I would rather be doing quality gaming. These days I only have one 4-6 hour block a week to spend with my players, and if I am going to be squandering one or more of those learning a new system, there had better be a good reason. In some of your listed games, I can see the point. I don't feel d20 is especially well suited to supers play, and would rather use HERO or DC Heroes for those. But of others you are listed, I gotta say I actively prefer d20, even if my players knew the system. d6 WEG and Shadowrun and WoD Storyteller (and moce dice pool style systems, for that matter) I really dislike. CoC is an unusual case. I've played it for years, but really feel the skill system is outdated, but I still think chargen is better than the d20 version. I think if I had a hankering to run Cthulhu mythos, I'd use the d20 version, but yank out the chargen and use a toned down version of d20 modern instead. [/QUOTE]
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